Wow, there were a lot of posts here o.o
Huh, never seen those before. I think the idea is kind of stupid, but hey, if that’s what the writers want, then sure.
No. They were before, when an answer to survival wasn’t known. It wouldn’t make sense to place them after Terra in the timeline. This is what Moon Kagari spent all those years doing.
They did. It’s said right near the start of the route.
How do you know? Is the geology of the world in Terra the same as in every other route? I don’t think we get enough information about such things to make that judgement… This is coming from someone who has been mapping out Kazamatsuri.
True and false. They weren’t simulations. The things that are placed into the theorem become reality, such as all of Kotarou’s friends showing up to battle, or Sakura’s familiars appearing. Kagari was testing worldlines with it though.
You can think of it as a simulation I guess, but it’s not a digital simulation, it’s a mental one, that tries to explore every possible choice and action that could ever come to be.
Whether you see it as a simulation or not, it is still something that happened, even if it was in a parallel universe. Once one works, Kagari can send it off to the original Earth.
As is said in those notes that Naoki posted, there are multiple worlds.
You don’t discount the Steins;Gate routes as simulations, and it’s exactly the same for this. They all exist, one with the other.
That choice in Terra is basically the main unsolved point where Kagari went wrong every other time. Terra comes after the routes. It’s questionable why the choice even exists in Terra, I think it’s just fan-service, but maybe Kagari didn’t have time to get that far during all the hectic fighting during Moon, so the choice that had to be made wasn’t predefined like every other choice. It didn’t really have to be either. Kagari had added what she needed to.
Making that choice basically means you are repeating the same mistake as in every other route.
Choosing the other option means you get the good end.
lol
It did change.
“The Earth was once filled with life originating from a meteor. As time passed, humanity was born naturally. Then they were destroyed before colonizing space, and had to re-evolve. By that point in time, the Earth was on the verge of drying up, so some of the aurora flowed to the Moon.”
Basically, humans died (either from salvation or from extinction) before figuring out how to live on other planets. The Aurora kickstarted new life on the Earth, and the long evolutionary chain up to humanity began again. The planet was dying from keeping life going for so long, so some of the Aurora moved to the Moon to to survive, while the rest of the Aurora stayed on Earth to… I guess slowly die and waste time for the Moon to find an answer.
While Moon was looking for an answer, life on Earth died again, and the planet had time to recover from sustaining life 24/7. Then, just as the Moon began to die as well, Moon found an answer, and Earth had been given enough time to harbour life again. Moon sends her answer off to Earth, and the Earth executes it.
Nah, that’s probably correct.
They said that before Naoki’s clarifications. They weren’t ignoring him… much ._.
Pinpon~! It’s this idea that makes the Terra route what it is. If you don’t understand why Kotarou is suddenly so determined after all that happened, then I don’t know how you wouldn’t get whiplash from his change in character.
This is something that a lot of people either ignored or forgot. Kotarou said he wanted to see her again. What implications would that desire have on his life growing up?
The Terra route is a start. It isn’t a continuation.
…Uh, the Theorem? The whole main focus of Moon is centered around a girl changing factors in a theorem to figure out the best result. They just follow the blueprints that Kagari drew up.
It’s not hard to understand that if you make a certain sequence of choices, you reach a certain conclusion.
Kagari figured out that Gaia and Guardian fighting brought a lot of awareness of the state of the world to humanity, so she goes there, and tries to change their focus from fighting, to surviving. Naturally, Kazamatsuri is a result of that.
The factors all stay the same. Kagari looks at the factors, changes one, and sees the result. She does this over and over until we get what Terra was. She wasn’t replicating factors, she just wasn’t changing them.
Don’t do that in a discussion about a fictional work.
Read the other posts.
You are confusing reader-assigned universes with in-story universes.
A reader-assigned universe is something we attribute to a fictional work. The Harry Potter universe. The Pokemon universe. They are ways of saying “everything that exists within that piece of work.”
An in-story universe is an existence within a fictional work. Timeline alpha and timeline beta in Steins;Gate are examples. They are different realities.
There is no difference.
That metaphor is terrible. Ignore it.
Aurora is more effective at creating life when it touches something it’s never touched before. The more it touches something, the less effective it is at creating life. If the Aurora doesn’t touch a certain thing for a while, the thing starts to forget interacting with the Aurora, and goes back to being more effective.
I kind of disagree. A standard blueprint doesn’t have reality-altering properties like Kagari’s theorem had.
I see it as a sort of command center. It logs what came out of the parallel worlds, and then can be manipulated to change the current state of reality. It does act as a blueprint that worlds follow, but it is a blueprint that controls existence. They aren’t just mere simulations, they are as real as the world of Moon or Terra are.
This is the only idea of what they are that makes sense, considering the things it can do.
It’s Romeo. They are gonna miss out some of the deeper meanings to the original text. The basic one or two layers of text will come through in translation, but any deeper interpretations and meanings will be missing.
It’s pretty funny that his name is Romeo, considering Shakespear’s works have the same translation problems for the same reasons.
Yes, congrats.
Oh, hey. My command center idea actually fits in here.