once you get just a little bit of ap and you hit your Q every so often, then one combo with 5 balls + ult and any target is pretty much dead ;D. Shes hella strong imo and people underastimate her.
Also fun fact: syndra is the only champion i bought the “bundle” for when she came out so thats why I have that yellow skin.
So last night I played a ranked game with my Master Tier friend (since I’m actually a high enough rank to do so right now and I asked him if I could rank with his main). It might have been because of the adrenaline that came from playing with people who I thought were WAY better than I was, but I noticed quite a few things from the large jump in rank.
First and foremost, I was actually surprised I didn’t get shit for my gold border when everyone was diamond. I honestly expected someone to say something, but you could also just chalk that up to chance.
Second off (and this is a big one if you play jungle) was that every time either jungler went to gank, or even showed up on the map, the enemy team would respond, and FAST. If I ganked Top lane, the enemy bot lane would IMMEDIATELY rush push the lane and try to get the mid and jungler to set up for drag. If I were to show up mid or bot, the enemy jungle would either try to countergank or take a tower in the lane that I wasn’t in. It really made me think about when I can gank, because I had to consider not only what we could get off of it, but also what the enemies could potentially get off it. Although I already had quite a bit of experience with responding to enemy jungler positioning, I noticed that what I would normally do wouldnt have been fast enough here, which is why some junglers (aka: Nautilus) don’t work so well at that level of play, because they simply can’t be where they need to be fast enough.
Thirdly, there was a LOT more synergy between the players of both teams. Where this showed the most was when someone was out of position. I remember numerous occasions when one of them would be “out of position” and my team would try to pick up an easy kill, but the enemy team would also see that their guy was in a bad spot and would respond MUCH faster than what I was used to (which I already thought was fairly fast). this meant that if we broke our solid teamfighting position in order to catch out their player, then they could still potentially win the trade by exploiting our temporary weaknesses; even if we picked up their carry.
Just a couple other small things that I noted: fights would break out and end extremely fast, as in if someone started Teleport as soon as the fight started it would be over before they got there. Both teams were also pretty willing to sacrifice something of theirs if it meant getting something of the enemies. one instance of this that I remember was when we were doing a 4 man siege in mid lane, and they sent their top laner and jungler each into one of the other lanes and had them take our towers while we tried to take theirs, and at the same time, no one on our team wanted to recall and defend. they had just accepted that we would lose a few towers and fought to make the trade better for us (in the end, they got our bot outer and inner turrets and our top outer turret, but we got their mid inner and inhibitor turret off of the trade, which meant a TON later on in the game).
In the end though, my team won and I got to keep my 100% win rate on Sion in ranked. I also got a compliment from someone on my team for apparently “knowing how to climb in ranked” because I was a gold playing with them; and my friend, who had previously told me that I could probably make it to Diamond if I played exclusively Mid and Jungle, admitted that he did not think I would pick it up so quickly.
It was just one match though, so be sure to take any of this with a grain of salt, but I want to know what @IkaCZ thinks about this, being Diamond himself. Does this sound pretty average or do you think it was more likely a rare game?
Getting this to work pre-30 is painful ;~;
“GUYS! They have 3 top! Push bot, get the tower and start drag!”
“We don’t need everyone. I’ll go top!”
“No adc! Don’t go alooone! We need you to push!”
“An ally has been slain.”
As a Singed player it’s infuriating. Enemy Jungler is always top. Wards in his Jungle tell you where he is. Not a single dragon has been killed… Mid inhib is somehow dying.
But yeah, you should be looking at your minimap every 3-5 seconds and remembering where everyone was. Someone vanished top? Are they ganking mid? Bot and the Jungler are missing? Did you ward dragon? Nobody wards at my level, so if you don’t want to insta-die then remembering everyone’s position, mana + health, and their possible routes around the map are important.
What really baffles me, beyond high level play, is lane swapping. For example, that TSM vs CLG game, the jungler and support duod leaving their lanes 1/1/1. Having an Annie alongside the jungler can add a lot of pressure… but unless you manage to set lanes back, you’ll be behind in levels and gold, and possibly kills. What’s to stop the enemy team from just shutting down your adc?
I’ve seen lane swaps with top laners that have TP, but never a support.
even in gold/platinum getting this to work takes a bit of work. I’m not kidding when I say “immediately.” like, I could step on a ward at baron pit and by the time I have it cleared(thanks to the “Chicken Buff” as it’s so called) they would already be starting dragon, basically forcing me to either cancel the gank and go contest that(which could potentially cost us a teamfight) or give them a free dragon and hope to take a tower and get a kill.
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Nobody wards at my level, so if you don’t want to insta-die then remembering everyone’s position, mana + health, and their possible routes around the map are important.
[/quote]This is another thing I forgot to touch on, I expected the map to be lit up like a christmas tree and vision to be highly contested, but there weren’t really that many more wards than I was used to. there was a hell of a lot more communication around them though; even if they didnt type it every time it happened, there was ALWAYS a ping if someone walked over a ward.
[quote=“Takafumi, post:323, topic:499”]
the jungler and support duod leaving their lanes 1/1/1.
[/quote]This has been in the competitive scene for a while now. I have yet to actually try it for myself, but it seems like the general idea is to gank a lane before you go B, force a flash or get a kill, and get a bunch of damage off on the tower. then go B and continue like a normal lane swap.
My ranked team does standard lane swaps every once in a while, but we havent tried this one yet. I’ll have to toss up the idea to them sometime so we can try it out, and I’ll hopefully understand it a lot better after doing it for myself.
That was more of a “standart” game for me, I have that in games pretty often. I have to say this kind of tactics and fast reponses are really visible only at high diamond starting at appox. dia 3, thats where I first saw it…
In like Diamond 5 its still that flame-ish strategy: Blame jungler, need ganks, rage, do all your best to get as much kills - so pretty much elohell really (trust me, diamond is not much better than silver or bronze, people are still dumb there).
I was playing a NORMAL GAME, and there was this guy “eSuba Miah” one of the best players on EUNE… and I got him aginast me… I Was like what are the odds to play against him on normals… clearly we lost it was just smooth victory for them. And I know how it feels when you are playing with higher divisions, its fun but its really tough and you need to learn how to pace with the game and players.
As I said those games are pretty common, and if you ever get to dia 1 or higher you will see that like almost every game. One of thet most OP things, are people responding to certain actions, not champions or buffs itself. Its the players.
Rito once said “we want our players to focus on PVP, on players, how to counter players not the game.” and that is basically what matters in high elo. Your capability of outplay and mechancs are extremely vital and you cant take any risks or gambles, otherwise you might just lose your lane/game straigh away. You need to know what you CAN and you CANNOT do.
Uhhhhh I guess that is my point of view, hope this kind of helped hehe.
Diamond 5 is really just full of Plats who won a promotion series. I don’t really consider them diamond level players.
also, I hate that strategy. especially as a Jungle main, it really bugs me when every lane is losing and they all expect me to camp them so I can spoon feed them individually; while also protecting Drag, covering their lanes whenever they want to go B, and warding everywhere so we can find their jungler. its like they expect the jungler to be able to carry the whole team every game just because he was the only one smart enough to bring a backpack…
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This is a problem I have when playing Jungle. Until I get enough IP, I’m stuck with a bunch of Junglers that can’t really gank until level 6, so if a lane starts losing before I hit that 6 then that lane is a lost cause. If a lane is winning then yay, I can help there! But… usually… all the lanes just completely lose. Then of course the Jungler is the fault.
I left those raptors for you to try and catch up on gold, and pinged that buff you never came to collect, but clearly your ignorance is the fault of others.
You don’t ward your lane? Probably not gonna be ganking anytime soon.
You’re pushed up to the enemy tower? I don’t trust you enough to dive that.
You’re down two levels in lane somehow? You’re a lost cause. The other lanes need to be able to carry you.
The worst moment has to be when two people start drag while the Jungler is top, and then get angry when drag is stolen…
I really need to get some champs that can gank pre-6 ;~;
I recommend buying Jarvan or Lee-sin, Lee is hard to master and requires like lets say 50 games to truly understand his potential and kit - how you can risk and how you cannot, when you can make plays and when not, tying different builds, more ad or more tank. Its pretty hard but its fun… to me at least.
Jarvan is really op, his kit is really strong, he is tanky, he does dmg and he is mobile and can zone out carries or even take them out if builded properly. His E makes his attack speed ridicously big and can clear jungles in no time. And if you really just need a full tank, then jarvan is still a good option here because he still does some dmg overall if you dont build any AD on him.
Now you just have to decide which one you prefer, more assasin-ish or tanky-ish champion. Both of them have good pre 6 gank potential and often its a secured kill. (there are crazy lees that can carry the whole game… trust me even that happened to me and I was raging so much that 1 guy won the whole game)
agreed. J4 is probably the best jungler right now. I don’t really think he’s OP in a balance sense, but he’s really strong.
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I really need to get some champs that can gank pre-6 ;~;
[/quote] Try out Nautilus if you haven’t already. he moves as slow as molasses, but his ganks are pretty solid across the whole game, even level 1 if that were to somehow come up.
Aside from that, Trundle is really good, Zac is pretty solid if you can get your team to follow up, Rek’Sai is really powerful too. if your team has decent CC you can do Shyvana; but you have to know that a good gank doesnt just consist of getting a kill, burning a summoner spell or even forcing them to go B helps the lane a ton.
If you want something completely different, Skarner is pretty good if you can make him work. even pre 6. If you’re feeling MANLY you could try Taric jungle; or if you’re feeling REALLY MANLY you should do Anivia jungle.
Jarvan or Vi are really the only viable choices imo. I have better uses for my ip right now though~ Any champ that’s over 4800 ip is pretty much off my list though. Just gonna stick to Poppy whenever I get dumped on the role.
Played Riven jungle today, because why not. I lost yeah, but I had fun and that is the most important thing for me right now, when playing League.
After that I went into a fun Irelia support game, which was really fun and exciting and yes, we won this one.
I was actually thinking of trying Riven support earlier today. Seems like it’d be fun. AOE clearing. Jumping over walls. Flipping over as you gank people.
I did get dumped with Zac in a Nemesis game, and the jumping was fun, but he wasn’t particularly useful late game, and ganks were hard to do without the laner having stun. As the annoying type of Jungler that focuses top lane, it was hard T_T
I should switch focus to bot one day…
I remember old times when riven jungle was really op because her E lasted 3 seconds and her damage was bigger overall. Tried it once in s2 and won :p. Its fun yeah, but the others may not find it funny at all 
It went pretty well, our Ashe just didnt seem to know, that she also has an Ult.
oh pls don’t remind me of that Ashe.
So glad I got ADC the game after that, that Ashe just really killed me with her plays.
So guys, any opinions, ideas?
I think this champ will be more Ionian based, even tho he is a “watchter” and has some connection with Shurima.
I think there will be special interactions with Azir and Lissandra.
But we could see the hints of this champ coming on the SR map, on the rocks etc. And they trigger when something happens. Im not sure what specific things are triggering the symbols to shine, but once when I played that Syndra ranked, and had that justicar skin on her. The symbol on Red side of SR near blue buff started to shine when I walked next to it.
If you look at the picture and describe the enviroment, it looks like Ionia or something. So thats why I think this champion will have his roots from Ionia and not Freljord or Shurima.
We still dont know, but I am curious how it will turn out :3.
well, another of those symbols near the golems triggered itself just by us taunting a lot in front of it. But yeah, it seems like an interesting champ, let’s see how it plays out in the end.
He isn’t a watcher, and he doesn’t have a connection to Shurima. This champ is a bard, and they tell tales of big events. You forgot the part about the Shadow Isles too 
What this story is doing basically is saying “We explored Freljord. We explored Shurima. We explored the Shadow Isles. Now we explore these floating lands.”
Maybe it’s something to do with FoTM? Freljord and Shurima have support items. But the only Shadow Isles item that fits here is BoTRK, so that doesn’t really work out…
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True dat, I have read the whole preview for the first time, and right off the bat I missread ad forgot some things hehe.
You’re right, but I still think it will be somehow Ionia connected hueheuehue.
