that was still considered a 2 cour show.
I’m just saying I’m not counting out the possibly of a split-cour or second season later down the line yet.
even if it gets a second season it wouldn’t make things better, since the second season will most likely adapt Moon and Terra.
so the first season will most likely adapt the Common route and Kagari route OR in the worst case, all the heroines routes like Grisaia no Kajitsu did…
btw are we going to get an article about the episode count soon?
Except nothing is wrong in the first place >.>
Please stop spreading such negativity when we have no idea how this will play out. You are all allowed to express disappointment if you want (even though I believe it is completely unfounded), but we all already know that many people have been up in arms about the the episode count since the anime was first announced. I am not allowing this thread to turn into MAL.
1st Season: Common Route
2nd Season: Heroine Routes
3rd Season: Moon and Terra
…
I can dream, right?
Really? nothing is wrong?
if we got like 26 eps for the first season then I would have said that “there is nothing wrong” lol
I’m not spreading negativity, I’m just sad that the VN that I love the most is not getting the treatments and the number of episodes that it deserves, and there is a high chance that it will turn out like Grisaia.
@Zaydgh98 I’m frankly starting to get frustrated by the references you are posting. You share a link claiming it is from BS11, when it is in fact a non-official site that supposedly just scours the web for information (and unreliable ones at that). You claim something stated by animate, yet you fail to post any references to back up your claim.
Consider this as an official warning: any more facts that you share without official and reliable reference will be dealt with a strike. Please strive to uphold the quality that we keep on Kazamatsuri.
Edit: My mistake on the amazon link; it actually does work, thankfully.
That being said, what with all the panic, I think we should do what we do best and discuss it like mature folks. If Rewrite does, in fact, end up with only 13 episodes, how do you think they could make it? What stories do you feel would be appropriate to show? What would they hide?
And I don’t want to hear anything like “13 episodes is impossible” unless you back it with solid reasoning.
Stay cool, everyone~
In that case, I hope for common and the new route. As much as I’d like to see certain scenes animated I’m remembering how badly 5 heroine routes flowed in 13 episodes in Grisaia. Maybe this new route can combine important/interesting/cool/funny elements from the heroine routes and alter them slightly to make sense in context?
I’m usually fine when things aren’t perfect adaptations. If I wanted that I’d read the manga/vn. I just want it to flow and tell a cohesive story.
Well, if they make it 13 episodes only (with Moon and Terra for a second season), I guess that we will have an anime-only route, the “That Girl” one that has been oficially mentioned.
The anime could work well that way, but instead of an adaptation it would be an anime exclusive story, something that I don’t dislike myself but… plenty of people is against those, and it can give the anime bad reputation… I think that we can get a good anime evne if only with that route as long as they know how to do it, but sadly it wouldn’t be what all of us expected, since we were waiting for an actual adaptation.
On the other hand, we may receive a rare treatment of 3 seasons, but I’m pretty sure that everyone here finds it unlikely, especially because a whole season only for the common route… the show would feel very slice of life and people would maybe even drop it before second season arrives.
I think that if either of these two things happen, the anime can work, but… negativity is going to be everywhere else if the 12-13 episodes are confirmed.
I love Rewrite as much as everyone else here, so we can consider this just some new content if it troubles you, let’s not lose hope yet, the show didn’t even start to be aired, we may be surprised.
Assuming there wont be anymore cours, I think whats most likely to happen is that this “new Kagari route” they keep speaking of will be the entirety of the show.
Im sure that would piss some people off, but I personally think it’d be pretty cool. If I just wanted to same story over again I’d just reread the VN. It’d be awesome if I could value the anime as its own great work. I’ve already spoken on how I think it would be amazing if the anime could do a whole new take on the story. (Looks like Ive been ninja’d by a couple people already lol)
I apologize for the mistakes that I made
Here is Animate’s info, The first BD vol will contain the 1-hour long episode,
http://www.animate-onlineshop.jp/pn/【Blu-ray】TV+Rewrite+1+完全生産限定版/pd/1405925/
Also I checked all the other BD vols, each one of them have 2 episodes
so basically
Blu-Ray Vol 1: Episode 1 Source
Blu-Ray Vol 2: Episodes 2 and 3 Source
Blu-Ray Vol 3: Episodes 4 and 5 Source
Blu-Ray Vol 4: Episodes 6 and 7 Source
Blu-Ray Vol 5: Episodes 8 and 9 Source
Blu-Ray Vol 6: Episodes 10 and 11 Source
Blu-Ray Vol 7: Episodes 12 and 13 Source
To state my opinion on the 13 episodes thing, I'm not very happy about it.
If we say that this is just the first season and there will be a second season that would adapt Moon and Terra, I would be "okay" with it if its used to adapt the common route and Kagari's route only but I don't think that 13 episodes is enough to develop all the heroines well and establish their character, this would make the anime an advertisement for the new ver of Rewrite(even if Rewrite+ is advertised as a "celebration for the anime")
Though there might be a chance that it will turn out like Aniplex's Duararara x2 where it had like 3 seasons 13 eps each, that would be "acceptable" and the staff might be able to fit in all the routes without it being too rushed.
Another thing too. If it’s only 13 for the first cour, then what Tanaka said is utter BS. “All the heroines will have their proper time to shine” (this is from the Dengeki interview btw).
Ok, so, let’s look on the bright side of the pessimistic side of things.
Let’s just say that Rewite has a “worst case scenario” 1 cour adaptation. Of course, disappointed VN fans. BUT:
That adaptation will bring more attention to the Visual Novel, which by the time the anime is finished airing, will likely be on steam.
In my opinion, the more people reading the visual novel, the better. Even if the anime ends up being an amazing adaptation, and all of our hopes are somehow filled.
I’m usually incredibly pessimistic, but in this case I see no reason. Something good will come out of this adaptation no matter what happens. :masgrin:
I will point out that this makes your other source saying there are only 12 episodes not add up, but thank you for sharing the animate links.
Thats all anime adaptations ever were in the first place :P[quote=“sanata50lbsb, post:632, topic:2127, full:true”]
Another thing too. If it’s only 13 for the first cour, then what Tanaka said is utter BS. “All the heroines will have their proper time to shine” (this is from the Dengeki interview btw).
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Unless its his opinion that they still do. Sorry your preconception that youve made before youve seen the show doesnt match with his statement that he made already knowing how the show is gonna play out.
Also, if it indeed is a 13 episode anime with only the “new route”, then perhaps all the characters “shine” throughout the entire series.
I can’t be the only one that’s excited for the anime that read the VN?
I understand that the heroine routes will not be adapted, but that doesn’t mean the 6th route will automatically be terrible. I loved all 5 heroine routes written by Romeo and R07. I have faith the 6th route he helped write for the anime will be amazing and that he will give each heroine a time to shine.
Just don’t expect the anime to be a mirror copy of the VN. That’s why we have the VN, better yet, a soon-to-be released and improved version of the VN: Rewrite+.
There has never been a VN that has had a 1:1 anime adaptation, including Steins;Gate and Higurashi. If you’re disappointed that the heroine routes aren’t being adapted, your disappointment is misplaced. They never said they were from the start.
How would you adapt the 5 heroine routes if you were given the task? Is it as easy as just saying “omnibus format” and cut/copy and paste from the VN? If you’ve read the VN, you know that’s far from sufficient.
No matter what studio/producer was going to work on Rewrite’s anime, it would have been an insanely difficult feat. I applaud the staff for even taking on this suicide mission of an adaptation all while working hard on it. Yet, here we are disappointed that its not a clone of the VN.
Does having an original route inherently mean it will be a bad adaptation? In terms of “faithfulness to the VN”, yes, in that sense, its a “bad adaptation” because it obviously isn’t a clone of the VN.
What about “faithfulness to the VN” in terms of it being a supplement to the VN? If you’re aware of Rewrite’s structure, this 6th route will not change the overall structure of Rewrite. Its just another worldline in the infinite world lines in the theory. Not many other stories can take advantage of its plot structure like this and become a supplement to the original source. So in terms of the anime being a supplement to the VN, this adaptation could work.
This begs the question, what is does “faithfulness to a VN” mean? A clone of the VN? The ability to tell the overall story? Adapting all your favorite scenes? Yoshino scenes? Oppai route?
I understand that many of us here love Rewrite’s story but its simply not realistic to get a ridiculous amount of episodes. Its understood that we all wanted to see the heroine routes animated, but how many cours would that have required to be successful? 3-4? How many producers give that many episodes to a VN adaptation off the bat? That’s far from realistic. Its absurd. From a producer’s point-of-view its ridiculous to consider that. Try to understand this.
From a VN reader’s point of view, they’ll probably be disappointed, but anime adaptations never tell a story better than the original source. I can’t recall one that I would consider to be. And even saying that is purely subjective. The point being: its absurd to think an anime could surpass the original source, let alone be on par with it all while asking for 3-4 cours off the bat.
From an anime-only viewer’s point-of-view, this adaptation has the potential to be amazing, although they won’t get Moon & Terra immediately and will have to wait.
12 episodes is sufficient for the common route + 6th route. If the common route had a ridiculous number of episodes containing SoL, many people would have dropped it thinking its some generic show.
If we indeed have 12 episodes (1 being an hour in length), its doable.
The question remains: How will they drop the hints you learn from each of the 5 heroine routes into the 6th route? We’ll find out very soon. Until then, I’d more open-minded about this adaptation.
Rewrite was never about love, hate, environmentalism, war, the heroines, oppai, etc.
Its about humanity and-
“Humanity was never meant to give up.”
~Kagari
Good to see both sides contributing to the discussion :kurumu: Now, while many agree that it might be a good anime by itself if they only adapt the “new” route, the biggest concern remains: how will they be able to showcase all of the rest of the cast of rewrite? How will they be given proper character depth, or even spotlight? How will they even fit into the new story?
And I think that, for me, is the most interesting part about this anime; all the routes of rewrite involved only the heroine of the route, whereas all the other characters were set aside; I would definitely love to see them all working together towards a bigger story, which is something we never saw in the visual novel. And hey, as long as they organize it in a sensible way for an anime, I think it would be pretty cool to see!
But there are two issues I can see now as well; first is that, at this point already, they are putting in a lot of focus on the heroines’ problems. I am reminded of this because I am currently using the Lucia wallpaper from the anime website, but the text mentions her gloves which, as we know from her route, is a pretty big part of her route. How would they be able to go back to the story of her gloves all while providing enough backstory to her, along with all the other heroines, for 13 episodes? I mean, sure, I personally don’t mind ignoring it all throughout, but the problem is that the anime staff themselves seem to be advertising and building up… So you can’t blame me for expecting it
Second issue I can see is for that of the viewers who start via the anime. A bunch of you are mentioning how the anime can provide as an advertisement to the VN, but I feel that if they don’t make it interesting enough, the anime-only viewers wouldn’t even bother to go for the VN at all. I am definitely reminded here of the Kagerou Project series, and its anime adaptation, Mekaku City Actors. Unlike what people were expecting, the anime was meant to be a conclusion to the entire Kagerou Project series, which required knowledge from the other series before watching. Because of that, people simply didn’t get the anime, and thus were not bothered to check out the rest of the series. Will Rewrite make the same mistake? Will it expect the viewers to already know about the Rewrite lore in order to understand it? I personally hope not, but I’m open to seeing it~
This just appeared while I was typing, but I wish I could give two likes to you @Zyzyoro, because that describes what I think would be the best outcome for the anime. Please make sure to tag spoilers for Moon and Terra and everything else past the common route of rewrite though; Not everybody participating here has read the vn, I wager.
Frankly. You’re also the one saying that the Rewrite anime is dead, that it’ll be rushed, and that we can kiss the anime adaption goodbye. You should seriously re-read the things you’ve posted on both Kaza and MAL. I understand how sad you feel, but those things are some of the most negative things I’ve read since the speculated episode announcement. It’s just disrespectful to 8-Bit, Romeo, Aniplex, Key, and everyone involved with the anime. Please respect that we’re even getting an anime for the Key VN that we never thought would get an anime.
You haven’t even seen the sixth route yet. How can you say that ? For all we know, each heroine could get their own time to shine in the new sixth route. If that’s not the case, each heroine might get their time to shine in moon. For all we know, Tanaka could have included the heroines in Terra and gave them their time to shine. I know lots of people would want that. You can’t honestly say that he was lying to us, when you haven’t even seen it yourself.
All this negativity surrounding the 1-course speculation needs to stop. Appreciate what we’re given, cause you know what ? I’d love seeing new things in the Rewrite universe. Especially when it involves the heroine we know least about, but can respect. Honestly. We don’t even know how many seasons and episodes Rewrite will have as a whole. Just appreciate what we’re given.
As long as Rewrite can give us the beautiful message in the new sixth route, then it doesn’t matter if the other heroine routes are adapted or not. As much as I’d love to see the ending to Shizuru’s route, and Koibumi playing, we just have to accept the fact that it won’t be adapted if only the new sixth route is being adapted. Honestly, Rewrite’s anime would be better received with only the sixth route instead of the other heroine routes. Since Tanaka is planning the sixth route, it’ll have less inconsistencies.
Whatever is being adapted and not being adapted, no need to spread negativity. Just enjoy what we can. We’re a community that loves Key. Not a community that disrespects what we’re given from Key, even if its possible that it won’t be what we want.
What the heck happened to this thread. I don’t know why so many people are/were panicking; this is literally meaningless information as far as I can tell. I said this long ago in this thread: 2 cour anime almost always begin in fall/spring. As soon as Rewrite was announced as summer, it became incredibly likely to be split cour or 1 cour, but I didn’t and still don’t see Key shoving Rewrite into 13 episodes, which leaves split cour as a pretty good bet. So, BD releases indicating 1 cour is like…well no duh, because 2 cour anime don’t air in summer. Yes, exceptions exist, but are you really going to panic over the exception rather than the norm? I wouldn’t even be surprised if they don’t announce the 2nd cour until the end of the final episode, but if they did that, I bet even more people would go all crazy about how the anime is a failure for being only 1 cour. If it actually gets confirmed as a total of 1 cour, rant all you want, but this information doesn’t tell us anything we didn’t already know based on anime airing patterns.
Anyways. Moving on from that
Tensho talked about when he was doing the Rewrite OP2 from the Visual Novel
http://tenshohp.web.fc2.com/Rewrite_genga.html
While I admire your zeal, Im not really a fan of the “just be happy with what you got” attitude
While I dislike the constant berating of every production, direction, writing, etc. choice, I also believe that as the consumers we have the right to criticize a work (although doing so before youve even seen it doesnt make any sense to me).
This happens a lot. Like, all the time. Why tell viewers up front that the story is only half way done when you can build up the suspense of the ending being immanent?