Rewrite - Anime Pre-Release Discussion & Speculation

Yes, Chihaya wā€™asnā€™t really necessary for the plot in the route of Akane, but this is strange that she and Sakuya are never mentioned when they are a powerful tools for Gaia and she is still part of the organization at this date in her own route.
Akane should at least mention her when Kotarou looking for what had happened to the other girls. Even if she doesnā€™t appear, to make consistent the two route together.

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Come on, at least get the quote right, Pepe! XP

Hmmm, Im not so sure about that. Moon is soā€¦ separate from the rest of the story, I dont even see how it would work with a strictly one-world setup. In fact, based on the PV, we already know that if Terra is to be included, it would necessitate being in a ā€œdifferent worldā€, since the PV shows events from Common.

Im also not opposed to an anime doing a reset button (in fact I think it could be kinda cool), but I understand why that would be kinda hard to pull off effectively.

Dang so thatā€™s where it was from! I had this quote in my mind but couldnā€™t figure out where I heard it. Iā€™m such a bad fan xP

Why I believe they would do a single time line, other than the fact that itā€™s the norm, is because we know thereā€™s an original story. There wouldnā€™t be a need for an original if you were going to present multiple routes with resets in between. If Iā€™m on point about the garden parts being one cour, it makes even more sense.

Thoughts on the Directorā€™s tweet? https://twitter.com/tensho_tw/status/721442598670340096

copying my thoughts I posted from MAL on here in regards to what Tenshou said:
ā€œIā€™m with Usuzumiiro on this one; thereā€™s no doubt in my mind that thatā€™s a Kagari route. With that being said, thereā€™s no way that this series can get less than 36 episodes. With all this talk from Tanaka about ā€œgiving all the heroines their proper time to shineā€ and ā€œgiving Kagari more developmentā€, it doesnā€™t make sense how the production team could make that a reality with only 13 or 24 episodesā€¦ Thatā€™s just my opinion though.ā€

Heā€™s emphasizing that itā€™s a Kagari centric story. We already knew that.

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While some apprehension has grown in me regarding how things will end up changing, Iā€™m still going to go with my initial guess as a base.

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As a reminder, my prediction was common -> new original route -> Moon -> Terra. Now letā€™s imagine a new 6th route with Kagari pre-Moon. We want all the heroines to shine, and it needs to lead into Moon well with only 1 iteration. What if this route becomes the occult club vs. Gaia/Guardian? Basically like Kotoriā€™s route, really, but with all the heroines instead. Iā€™m sure justifications could be created for the heroines joining up, except perhaps Akane. Heck, Chihaya decided to quit fighting in the VN. Shizuru is a sweetheart, and Lucia has to watch over Shizuru, itā€™s not like she wants to join or anything. So they all try to protect Kagari as we get to know her and the problems the Earth faces, but they fail, and the world is destroyed just like every other route. In fact, a scene similar to Kotoriā€™s route where Kagari just gets murdered in front of Kotarou as he passes out could be used as a cliffhanger and then from there, Moon and Terra can proceed similarly.

I think this has a pretty good chance of happening. It makes the entire anime about Kagari without changing Rewriteā€™s story or Moon/Terra. As for episode countā€¦I think this might be doable in 2 cour. I definitely prefer 3 cour butā€¦I feel like 2 cour miiiiiight be feasible.

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On the contrary, I think that this will lead to inconsistencies.

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[spoiler]In the Moon Route, Kotarou says explicitly the Occult Club has never fought together, in any itiration.

Even if Chihaya can leave Gaia in in her and Shizuru route. Shizuru and Lucia have no reason to protect the Key. They know that she can destroy all the humans and even Kotarou, before Moon, eventually consider that it is better to destroy her. This is because he meet Kagari on the Moon that he finally understood her goal.

I also believe it would harm the characters if they could give up easily their ideals and their factions only for Kotarou. Their bond was weak, it is why it was easily broken at the end of the common route and it was an important component in the story.

A third point is that Kotarou never managed to effectively protect the Key. In the route of Kotori and Akane, she ends up being mortally wounded. Even with Shizuru and Lucia, the battle seems lost in advance. And even with Sakuya, this latter isnā€™t completely invincible.[/spoiler]

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Guys PLEASE! Provide CONTEXT for your spoilers! I wouldnā€™t even know if you were spoiling harvest festa for me until I click on it! >_<

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Sorry, Iā€™ve been assuming that HF spoilers were the ones that got tagged while untagged is assumed to be the original VN since almost everyone has either read Rewrite but not HF or not read either. Anyway, Iā€™ll try to do a better job with tagging spoilers.

@Toullaty I think inconsistency is inevitable, especially since Kagariā€™s changes already mean there are inconsistencies.

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[spoiler]Something like theyā€™ve never fought together before being stated is a pretty minor inconsistency. Especially if Kagariā€™s character is going to change significantly, it makes sense that her character can then influence people into doing things they didnā€™t do in the VN.

Therefore, itā€™s a poor argument to say how characters will treat Kagari in this iteration when we know the anime is going to be all about Kagari which is completely the opposite of how Kagari barely did anything in the VN routes. Because she will now take a major role in the story, itā€™s plausible that she can influence some big differences in character reactions (not just the heroines, but everyone). Now, I still agree that thereā€™s inconsistency between the resolve of the heroines in the VN to destroy/capture the Key and then deciding to betray their factions and join up. However, as I have said multiple times, an anime adaptation has to make certain sacrifices to the character routes and by extension, the characters themselves. If the characters are changed so that they do not have such powerful convictions to begin with and are then further convinced through Kagariā€™s new interactions and personality, I think it makes sense.

You say their weak bond at the end of the common route was an important part of the story. However, I only agree that it was an important part of the story pre-Moon. It made for great plot and conflict development, but in reality, the conflict of bonds doesnā€™t really affect Rewriteā€™s true story, though it does matter to some of its themes in regards to conflict. By the time Moon happens, what matters is how strong their bonds have become, not how weak they were in the past. Does it harm their original characters which was more interesting to see developed across the routes? Definitely, but once again, some things are going to be sacrificed, and I think this disagreement develops from desiring complete faithful consistency with the original VN and what is actually feasible in an anime while still conveying the story well.

I donā€™t get your third point? I suggested the Key/Kagari being killed is a good cliffhanger to use, and your counterargument is they canā€™t protect her? That seems exactly in line with what I said? [/spoiler]

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Assuming that Moon Kagari stated that, in none of the lines did they all work together, then it becomes an inconsistency depending on where exactly we place this new route. If the new route is simply just one of the ā€œlinesā€ that Moon Kagari was viewing, then yes it is inconsistent with Moon which supposedly overarchs both the anime and the VN.

But if itā€™s a totally different thing, not related to Moon in any way, then they can make it however way they want. I personally wouldnā€™t like it, but I guess if thatā€™s the way the cookie crumbles, so be it.

Yes, I wanted to talk about the difficulty of protecting the Key. This is a hopeless situation and it would simply risk to do a mix between the route of Kotori or Akane and the route of Moon.

I have no problems with inconsistencies if they come with the adaptation. Scenes will be cut, this is inevitable. But here, it would be a new scenario written specifically for the anime. The number of episode will be less problematic. It would be a problem if they canā€™t write something that fits the VN.

Usuzumiiro from MAL did a post showing all the info that we know so far about the Rewrite anime.

you guys should check it out!

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Thatā€™s actually what I was referring to though, not something like cutting material. I donā€™t think an anime can fit the VN the way you want it to. I think some sacrifices to things like character motivations or plot developments have to be adjusted in order to better storyboard an anime. Yes, there are problems but if you donā€™t accept those, you create problems in other areas due to differences in storytelling methods of an anime and VN. Itā€™s about balancing the strengths and weaknesses of different media to tell the same story. And honestly, itā€™s not like the VN was perfectly consistent itself, so changing things that donā€™t ā€œfitā€ the VN could arguably be an improvement, but thatā€™s a different topic.

To be clear, I donā€™t mean to say this is definitely going to be acceptable. I just donā€™t see it being as inherently problematic as you imply just because it doesnā€™t fit the VN as we know it. Itā€™s not like this is my top choice for adaptation either, but given the information thatā€™s out which greatly limits our available theories, I see this as having the best shot at adapting Rewrite as faithfully as possible - that doesnā€™t mean super ideal; it means we canā€™t realistically ask for more due to limitations of the anime medium [and the limitations of what has already been revealed]. Feel free to suggest something you think is better, as thatā€™s what the purpose of this thread is for.

After reading all of that. I feel like I donā€™t need to worry. Also, after accepting that the PV was pretty much rushed, so we can expect (hopefully) better quality, Iā€™m satisfied. Not to mention on the Rewrite anime page, the characters are definitely beautiful.

KAGARI MOE !

And is the sixth route/Kagari Route actually confirmed ? It would be nice to see some content for her where she has her time to shine.

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Thanks for that, that really clears things up and gives me a lot of hope for this anime.

I really like how involved everyone working on it appears to be. :masgrin:

Jesus thatā€™s a lot of info that completely went under our radar. I feel embarassed ^^;

Did anybody else know about any of this? If so why didnā€™t you mention it here :stuck_out_tongue:

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Rather than ā€œinformationā€, Iā€™d say vague hints that may or may not lead to anything. Of course theyā€™re gonna make it sound good in promotional interviews. Most of the stuff is from 5 months ago, so itā€™s primarily used to build hype and speculation.

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Any experiened person in the gaming industry or the anime industry knows how dangerous it is to hype up fans and disappoint them lol.

it will lead to major financial loss.

if the stuff that the staff said about Rewriteā€™s anime is false then R.I.P Key I guess lol

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