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I think the most regrettable part is that, iirc, the biggest delays happen on weekends, when we are supposed to have the most time to play. So I would like to put a time limit at least on saturdays and sundays.
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Komari-chan, after finally finishing a couple of sketches, looks at them nervously. She puts one hand on her chest and closes her eyes.
“Daijoooubu! I’m a smart girl, so I definitely got it right! Be confident! Yoosh!”
She lays down her sketches and stands in front of everybody.
Everyone, you should probably sit down and get really comfortable for now, because this will take a lot of time.
These are my conclusions about the identities of the student council spies. I didn’t get as much information as I hoped to but since I’m also being suspected, this might be my last chance in a while to get my thoughts across properly, so I tried to figure everything out right away.
I have concluded that the spies are most likely Haru-chan (@EisenKoubu), Masato-kun (@Mogaoscar), Yui-chan (@Necem) and Kengo-kun (@Karifean).
This conclusion is based on two assumptions:
- That Haru-chan (@EisenKoubu) is a spy.
- That Masato-kun (@Mogaoscar) is also a spy and that his behavior is not faked in order to deceive those who suspect him.
I suspected Haru-chan because she tried really hard to get on the team. But it was just a slight suspicion. However, Masato-kun confirmed it by praising and defending her. Little Busters don’t know who’s a spy and who isn’t, so I found his trust in her strange.
I’m also relying on the voting results of the first mission:
I believe that the first mission is the safest time for a spy to openly vote for their comrade’s team. If anything, rejecting it looks way more suspicious. Thus, I assumed that four out of the five who approved of the mission are probably spies.
So let’s go through everything that’s happened so far.
After the very first voting, Masato-kun praised Kengo-kun (@Karifean) and Yui-chan (@Necem), calling her Anego. Basically, he’s promoting his comrades throughout the game, trying to get them picked for a mission. Yui-chan immediately told him to stop, which, as I said back then, I interpreted as an attempt to silence him, so that he won’t babble on and reveal all of his comrade’s identities. It seems he didn’t get the message.
After the first mission succeeded, Masato-kun volunteered, while also recommending to pick Kengo-kun as well as the members of the team who succeeded in the first mission. Kengo-kun also volunteered.
Riki-kun (@RyuuTamotsu) was the next leader. From what I understood from his explanation, he must have trusted Yui-chan while suspecting Haru-chan and Kengo-kun. A failed mission would have confirmed his suspicion. Please correct me if I misunderstood, Riki-kun.
It’s not weird for Yui-chan to object to Riki-kun’s team. In fact, her entire behavior so far makes perfect sense even if you assume she’s a true Little Buster. The reason I’m suspecting her is the very first voting and the silencing part. But everything fits together pretty well from my standpoint. If the mission were to fail, she, along with two other of her comrades would fall under suspicion.
Next up was Haru-chan’s team. Looking back on it now, it was a really smart constellation. She put both of my suspects, Yui-chan, who led a successfull mission, and me on a team. If the team goes on a mission, it’s a win-win situation considering her position. If nobody fails the mission, she would clear her and Masato-kun’s name. If the missioin failed, I, who kept suspecting her would lose credibility. Yui-chan would be the last to be suspected. Or maybe it was just to provoke me further, which worked pretty well. She switched over to Riki-kun, which may have a variety of reasons. Maybe it’s because he was the only one to suspect Kengo-kun. Maybe it’s because he would approve of the team since it’s almost identical to his own. Well, this is also just a part that fits well but doesn’t really prove much, which I am aware of.
Exhales loudly
Fueh~ My throat is all dry now. Takes a sip from a tea bottle
But what do you think of my conclusion? Amazing, right? smirks
All right. Now, I will pick my team based on my assumption and the results of the very first voting. I would have put myself on the team to be extra sure, but I guess I can’t since I’m a suspect now, too.
I’ve been put on teams against my will several times now, which I hated, so I’ll try to do things differently.
The following is not the official constellation yet.
I will now name the members I would like to pick for my team. I ask these four to tell me if they agree with being on the team or not.
Mio-chan (@Glenn_Irish)
Riki-kun (@RyuuTamotsu)
Kuu-chan (@cjlim2007)
Kyousuke-san (@Natsume )
Please give it some serious thought, because changing the team would be really complicated for me for obvious reasons :komue:
Everyone, if you have any questions for me, now would be a good time to ask.
That was incredible :kotohino:
Ahem…
That’s true, I didn’t want to drag Kurugaya into this.
Also, thanks for choosing me Komari! I’m in.
sigh
This makes things complicated since while I partly agree with your line of thought, the conclusion that I am one of the spies is most certainly wrong. I assume you are largely basing this on the results of the first vote? Well from my perspective it’s actually very curious to see 5 APPROVE and 5 REJECT votes. With that it’s borderline impossible for all members of the spy team to have voted unanimously, so there must have been some sort of disagreement among the spies. Let’s see, it was Mio/@Glenn_Irish (who never did explain their REJECT vote…), Saigusa/@EisenKoubu and Kamikita/@Naoki_Saten? Now why would there be a disagreement among the spies for that particular group doing the first mission? Does anyone have any good ideas?
That’s an interesting conclusion. I’d accept except you should put yourself into the team. It does not make any sense for you to ever not put yourself in the team because you can always be sure of your own role. It’s fine to trust people but at the same time, putting yourself in just eliminates variables if it comes down to picking who is the bad guy in the team. But maybe I’m just too into the Avalon strategies and believe that people don’t do what you’re doing simply to not show they are Merlin.
I simply wasn’t confident in my own decision. I thought that if I included myself the mission it would surely pass but after choosing I still wasn’t confident enough to approve what I picked and wanted to see how the other members of the Little Busters acted. I don’t mind accompanying you on your games but I would prefer not to have the leadership position thrown on me…
@Naoki_Saten understood.
お前ゲロ犬
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Oh? Is it finally my turn to shine?
I admittedly have certain reluctances with the team since Nishizono hasn’t really been communicating or attempting to up until now despite the danger the Little Busters are going through, but I don’t have any concrete objections to the team beyond that.
That said, I did bring it up so I think we could do with an explanation for Nishizono’s complete silence beyond the initial voting. Communication is what will get us through this obstacle, everyone!
Look! It’s the spiral of happiness.
To sum it up, the members I chose for the mission have all agreed. However, Kuu-chan demands me to be on the team while Kyousuke-san and Rin-chan may still object out of distrust if I switch in. Also, Kyousuke-san wants to know why Mio-chan (@Glenn_Irish) didn’t say anything after the first voting. Mio-chan, while you at it, could you also tell us why you approved of Riki-kun’s team but rejected Haru-chan’s even though they were almost identical?
Not a single reply? Come on, everyone, let’s not waste too much time.
Mio-chan (@Glenn_Irish), please answer the two questions.
Kuu-chan(@cjlim2007), the team might get rejected if I join it, so would you mind if I don’t?
Kyousuke-san(@Natsume ), Rin-chan(@Arete), do you still object to me being on the team?
I will announce the official team in a couple of hours, so please reply.
Hmm… Your reasoning is quite logical and fair, Kamikita, but I still stand by my previous grounds to avoid conflictual members until the heat settles down. It may endanger our missions otherwise.
I mean I get what you mean but its just highly recommended. I will accept this mission if its the same team.
Sorry for the wait. Here I go!
@Pepe
Since everyone agreed to join, the team lineup remains unchanged:
Mio-chan (@Glenn_Irish),
Riki-kun (@RyuuTamotsu),
Kuu-chan (@cjlim2007),
Kyousuke-san (@Natsume ),
please help out the poor dorm manager so that everyone can play Ping-Pong together again. Making others happy makes you happy, to. It’s a wonderful thing!
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OK, I’m stepping out of role-playing in this particular post because I have little time to write this and I should at least respond to all the discussion during the last 3 roles. Also, I think there are points I won’t be able to get across if I try to role play while explaining them.
Mainly, Komari (@Naoki_Saten), I think that while your logic is correct, you base your whole theory upon two points which are mostly a wild guess. The fact that Haru-chan tried hard to get on the team might be due to her being really energic and looking forward to joining a team to do any kind of fun activity. Then again, as for me, I just said “Riki, Haruka and Riki” to use that joke in which Masato counts some people two times. The name of Haruka in that particular sentence didn’t have any hidden meaning, I just thought that since it was the first round I could fill in the gap with anyone, and my mind made me think that Haruka would be a nice SpecOps member for that mission. My opinion about all the beginning of the game is to only use that information as a backup for when you have more solid information later on, but basing a whole theory upon facts from before the first voting occurs doesn’t seem to be the best idea ever.
By the way, the fact that I’m praising people is merely because either I agree with what they say or I just get carried by the mood of others (this is what happened with the Anego thing). Then again, I attribute this facts that you pointed out about me to the fact that I’m not used to role-playing and I tend to forget things like the fact that Masato and Haruka aren’t friends (though, honestly, they don’t seem like enemies to me).
Then, when you talk about me volunteering, it’s merely because I want to participate in a mission, just cause it’s fun and I think that my character, Masato, would enjoy going in too. However, the way things are right now make me think that I should probably stop role-playing because I haven’t been able to express the ideas that I (in real life) had, and instead I’ve ended up being conquered by Masato’s will.
I hope that with this I gave an explanation to all the things you’ve said about my actions. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask.
I’m still interested in knowing why you didn’t put yourself in the team for the same reason Kuu-chan wants you to be in. Please, if you could clarify this before the voting occurs I’d appreciate it.
Even then, it’s not that I don’t like your constellation. I mean, I don’t have any reasons to distrust you apart from the little fight you had with Haruka, and the rest of the members of the members of the team haven’t done anything to piss me off. Hell, Riki even defended me when almost everyone was bullying me. ^^
That said, I’ll consider from now onwards whether I’ll switch back to role-playing or I’ll stay this way. I mean, I like role-playing but I feel like this particular character and this game are incompatible somehow.
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(Off role)
Why does the major stuff always happen when I’m about to go sleep or head off to work? -_-
First of all, role-playing is just a fun thing to do on the side. It’s entirely optional. OF COURSE it’s not supposed to limit one’s actions as a player. Some people are barely roleplaying at all and I doubt my Komari act has struck anyone as particularly realistic. Heck, it might give me nightmares soon…
But that’s how it’s supposed to be. Our roles have no bearing on the gameplay or our team assignments and are completely unrelated to our actions and playstyles. I’m pretty sure this much was obvious from the start.
This also means that any actions performed out of roleplay-related reasons are entirely irrational. However, those same role-related reasons can be used to convince careless players into believing certain things and performing specific actions, especially at the beginning of the game when nobody has any information to work with. Therefore, I’ve been keeping an aye on anyone who used roleplay as an explanation for what they did or what they wanted others to do.
And for the same reason, anything a player says, any explanation they give for their actions, be it off role or in role, has the same credibility until the game ends. This game is about deceiving and picking the right things and people to trust or to distrust, after all.
As for my reasons to be on the team or not, they are in plain sight. I’ve been trying to uncover the identities of the spies and now I’ve arrived at a conclusion I’m confident in. But I can’t put my reasoning to use if my team is rejected. I can’t win the game on my own. I’ve stood out too much. I’m being openly suspected by two people who have declared they won’t tolerate my or Haruka’s presence on a team for the time being. And who knows how many may think the same thing in secret. So I have to compromise and cooperate. Luckily, I could narrow down the list of suspects enough to have some breathing room.
If my conclusion is correct, the Little Busters will win with this constellation.
Let’s hope this second voting phase goes a bit more eventful
Mission 2 Briefing
Mission name: Ping Pong Dash
Mission Leader: @Naoki_Saten
Mission participants: @Glenn_Irish @RyuuTamotsu @cjlim2007 @Natsume
@Glenn_Irish @Necem @RyuuTamotsu @EisenKoubu @Naoki_Saten @cjlim2007 @Mogaoscar @Arete @Natsume @Karifean
Kindly let me know whether you approve or reject to the members selected for this mission by replying to your role PM or PM-ing me on discord with either “Approve” or “Reject”. Once all votes are tallied, I’ll be revealing everyone’s votes, and continuing from there.
And just a firendly reminder from your GM: while roleplaying is fun, please don’t let it affect your decisions for playing the game~ I’ve made the same mistake before as a player (over in the Rokkenjima mafia games) and that didn’t turn out well for me. So, sure, you can say it like your character would, but don’t let it affect your actual decisions. Much like what Komari-chan is doing~
And, yes,
Me too
I feel better about this team. I think we should go through with this mission and on the off chance it is sabotaged we’ll gain some valuable information.
Alrighty. Stretches for a bit. Let’s see here. @Naoki_Saten has made quite a number of claims. Buuuut since I know for a fact that they are not 100% accurate, I feel it is in all of our best interests if I took the time to examine their credibility. If you have the means to back them up further, Nick, by all means do so; but for now allow me to poke holes where I can.
So first up your reasons for suspecting Eisen are shallow at best. I’ve seen how Eisen plays when he’s part of the ‘good team’ over on Rokkenjima, and none of what he did around the first vote was even remotely far enough out of the ordinary to earn that kind of reaction. You use Mogaoscar’s actions to back up your suspicions, which is fair enough, but I don’t really think it makes for much of a compelling argument, since his actions also line up perfectly fine with a Buster who’s having fun roleplaying a bit. I’d have no problems with you throwing out some wild claims if they ended there, but you’ve said how much you distrust Eisen time and time again and as far as I’m concerned there’s not nearly enough to back that up.
Though of course I won’t say your allegations are wrong. I don’t know whether Eisen and Oscar are actually spies or not. But I do believe you are getting in too far in distrusting them on a weak basis and trying to extrapolate from that, to the point of ignoring indicators of suspicion towards other people, and ironically even further indicators of suspicion towards the very people you’re suspecting. And that’s hardly constructive, now is it?
Like ngl, I’m also suspicious of Eisen, but mainly for one reason: he should’ve been the one to make this post. If he is a Buster, all of his actions are something a Buster would definitely do which means your logic does not hold up, and yet he’s made no effort to counter your arguments. Still, I think it’s best to keep an open mind. I still consider it very possible that my impression is wrong and Eisen really is a Buster.
Phew, well now that I got that out of the way, I also have to point out the obvious, of course. Why, just why, are you confident in the conclusion that I am part of the spies. I’ve posted so little in this topic that I was very surprised to see my name on a suspect list all of a sudden, and I won’t go back over why I think your argument is flawed because I already did that a few posts further up. And yet now you still state it’s a conclusion you’re confident in. No. Objection. It still doesn’t make sense.
WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID however I still voted APPROVE this round. While I have slight suspicions about both Glenn and Natsume and no good reason to trust either of the other two, I’m willing to be proven wrong. If we get a unanimous Success here, that’d be amazing since it puts a lot of pressure on the spy team and prevent them from playing overly covert. And even if we do get a Failure, if that would make you start doubting this conclusion you’re ‘confident’ in it might also help us get a better idea of who the spies are in the long term.
With al that has been said during these last days, I’m going to vote reject for the simple fact that I don’t think @Naoki_Saten’s theory is accurate. That and @Karifean’s post have made me think that two of your conclusions aren’t true, and, hence, the relations made to link it to @Necem and @EisenKoubu have lost some credibility, leading me to think that there’s a fairly high chance that there’s a spy in the team you created (be it because you put that person in on purpose cause you are a spy or just by chance).
As for the suspicions I have towards @Naoki_Saten, it could perfectly be a strategy to direct attention away from the actual spies. This would mean that @Naoki_Saten is a spy and people who haven’t been targeted by all these accusation posts have a high chance of being spies. But then again, this is a wild guess, and I won’t go as far as to make it a claim. I mean, @Naoki_Saten hasn’t done much to earn a lot of distrust apart from poorly founded accusations. That could change with this next mission though.
So yeah, I’m voting Reject. Nonetheless, I agree with @Arete that voting approve isn’t a bad idea either since was it to be sabotaged, it would still be the first failed mission and we’d gain a good piece of valuable information.
Overall, I’m still voting Reject, but I’m still at a crossroads and it’s not that I dislike the Approve option either. Actually, I think both are good choices for different reasons as stated, so I won’t judge people too hard on whether they vote approve or reject this time.
(Off role)
Did you guys just casually take more than one extra day of time to reply and cast your vote? Why did I even bother skipping on sleep on a workday for a fast reply that was demanded to be given “before voting occurs”? -_-
My bad, I lagged a bit. I just sent a PM to Pepe, I meant to vote as I wrote my last post but then it just slipped off my mind as I had to do some other things. Apologies, it won’t happen again.
