Huh, it didn’t look like he recovered at the end of the episode to me. He still looked pretty torn-up. He was just knocked back into reality.
We won’t know until further episodes, but I hope he is still this very different Yuu.
There’s more stuff.
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Sure, everyone is talking about Otosaka’s emotional roller coaster but why is no one talking about Tomori letting herself in Takajo’s (empty) house. If it’s his house, where’s his parents? Are they moving in to the condo too with him, or what? Why do all of the main casts have the issue of missing parents? And what the heck is Takajo to Tomori anyway?
But this time Key made a death so sudden no one can even expect. And I thought Maeda’s gonna cross the line when Otosaka decided to use dem drug.
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We had people calling this from episode 1. Like… It really isn’t that surprising if you apply the smallest amount of genre savviness.
So… Let me get it clear. The idea here is that stabbing, mutilating, and just beating up dozens and dozens of people probably scarring them for life is perfectly fine. The tiniest amount of an illegal drug IS THE VERY WORST AND A LINE THAT MUST NOT BE CROSSED.
What the fuck are those priorities?
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I was under the impression that he was about to take a high class drug that he would become immediately addicted to and do horrible things to his body. It would’ve taken significant efforts to break him out of that had he continued with taking it.
In the real world it really is just the tiniest amount of some drugs that mean you can get addicted to them for life. I’m pretty sure Nao knew she would be able to bring him back but she wouldn’t if he had taken it.
The thing is, usually Japan is very restricted about visualizing the use of drugs, booze and cigarettes by minors. Extreme violence, nah, that’s normal. But teenagers smoking, drinking booze and using drugs, that’s not cool, THAT’S NOT OKAY. They have rules about these, but not toward violence. That’s what I’m talking about. Not about the morality of the in-universe characters, but rather the rule of published medias.
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I was wondering what those numbers or letters were.
More so, I think the lady at the funeral was sort of hinting for future time shenanigans too. She was babbling all these stuff about time healing wounds.
Ah. My bad. I was just getting annoyed by some of the tone and well how the narrative of the show set up that scene on it’s own right. ^^
Fun fact, taking a small amount of iunno Heroin? DOESN’T STOP YOU BEING HUMAN. And yeah it’s instantly addictive but I’ve heard of enough people who tried it and just went “NOOOOPE.”. The demonisation of drugs compared to the brutality of the violence Yuu did this ep is really really really weird in that regard.
I thought I’m the only one who think about this in episode 7…now I know why they changed the rating into 17+
Yuu stabbing persons still ok for me…but for him to use that drugs…I-It’s very disturbing…
Probably called him before. She was calling someone.
Before the show even began. The only thing keeping it sudden is that people refused the possibility. They still are refusing it.
These things are entertaining to watch though. It was fun because it’s the old Yuu to the extreme, and it’s nice to see how far he can go.
Drugs aren’t fun to watch. It’s not exciting or action filled. It could also distort the character of Yuu, and character is pretty important imo. You just know that if he had taken it, they’d drag it out for longer than it needs to be.
Yeah, it’s not the drugs, it’s the addiction. At least his sensibilities weren’t utterly twisted when Nao stopped him.
You shouldn’t be so literal.
Yuu was in a bad state though. He became a creature of habit, doing the same things day-in day-out.
They demonised the violence too, but in a fun way.
But honestly, I’m not really a fan of watching Tomori’s calling drug user as “something that cannot turn back to human again.” Frankly I can’t respect drug abuser and drug addicts. There were a lot of them dying and never able to get away from the addiction, but there are also some who tried to be free of the addiction, even if it’s almost impossible and very hard. If I were a drug addict watching this episode, I would feel very crushed when I heard Tomori’s line about that, and would decide to end my life over a harsh commentary of fictional character. (You wouldn’t guess what “high” people would do, would you?)
Tomori’s line, instead of this
Should be more accurate to be this
In Otosaka’s state right then, he could totally be very addicted. Some people turn to drugs when they need a distraction from a very stressful event. There are some people who tried drugs and say, “No thanks, once is enough” but I bet they’re just pretty satisfied with their life (or at least, currently are in healthy mind and state so they don’t make rash decision). But you know how he was like when he decided to try huffing dem drugs. He was mentally ill, I say.
And if he was getting addicted, you could imagine what kind of cruel things he could do to anyone, especially with the power he possess. Some drug addicts would kill and steal from innocent people to get drugs. So that’s why they “demonized” the use of drugs more than brutal violence.
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See this is the issue. People have repeated this as if it’s some kind of defence of what’s going on here.
But really it’s not. Self destructive acts are self destructive! Good job recognising that! The show was fine having Yuu go round looking to be killed / threatening people’s lives without Nao interrupting. “but Yuu was in a very dangerous place so drugs would be bad for him” yadda yadda yadda… All his behaviours up to that point were everything from just as harmful to even more harmful.
Peeps I was referring to there, nah. I wasn’t referring to iunno, privellaged school kids looking for a rush. I was referring to peeps in quite shitty life states.
The big issue with this episode is that it’s something along the lines of “mentally ill people are dangerous so we need to help them so they stop being dangerous.”. Which is utterly disgusting and wrong. Peeps suffering from depression, or well any mental illness, are infinitely more likely to be subjected to violence and harmful behaviour than doing it themselves. Drug abuse to deal with life, yeah sure, that’s hella common but demonising /that/ as the step too far is utter bollocks. Self destructive behaviour is self destructive, cool, but going around fucking maiming people as well as being self destructive is harming faaaaarrr more than just yourself.
And that’s without me getting into how having Nao just follow Yuu through his self destructive lifestyle is pretty close to fridging her as a character. She’d been hella rad so far, and it’s fine having her just be there when he’s in the house. Like, that’s kinda what you gotta do, just be there for people. But the rest. Urgh. I’m giving it benefit of the doubt but it’s giving me shitty expectations.
I don’t think she was just referring to the drugs alone but his whole life style he was having. They probably had the scene because they wanted to show an act they could be easily stopped by somebody being there. Stopping a fight would of been harder to do and more awkward.
But who knows maybe they did want a anti drug message, it’s up to the writer to have their opinions about life in their works. I don’t think that is a bad thing even if you disagree with it.
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Well… I guess it’ll take me a while to catch up on all the comments on this topic ^^;
How did I feel about this episode? I absolutely loved it. Watching Yuu slowly delve into a hikkikomori was extremely emotionally gripping. Watching him travel further down the rabbit hole just strengthened my view of Yuu’s own personality; he’s an asshole through-and-through and cares very little for the well-being of others. So to those people that wanted to see more of the Episode 1 Yuu, well, there you have it 
The omurice scene was just the icing on the cake. Here I go again with my “no crying at sad scenes, but crying at the fulfillment” where Yuu finally realizes the “happiness that went unnoticed”, and thus gets him back on track with his life. The entire episode leads into this, and it simply couldn’t have worked if they did not show him devolve into the state that he was by the end.
Just a side comment, but I was extremely surprised with the drug reference. Simply mentioning drugs in anime is a taboo in the industry, but Charlotte pulled it off really well. I hope it actually does something and helps make other anime use the realities of our harsh world to the advantage of furthering their story potential.
Final comment on the episode, and a kind-of-not-really complaint but… Where do we go from here? I definitely did not expect the outcome of this episode, and I expected to be given more information about Kumagami, the scientists, or the brotherhood. At the end of this episode, however, it just seems that we will be returning to the same old Charlotte (with a lot less pizza sauce). Like I said, I absolutely loved this episode, but I feel that it didn’t really push the plot forward very much.
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I’ve been asking myself this nonstop. And it’s not just me. The amount of people along for the ride that cannot even touch on ‘what the fuck is actually happening’ is very high lol
I was satisfied with this vr of Yuu. True enough, this episode mirrors the first episode so much and I’m more excited of what goes on for Yuu without an imouto to go home to. I hope to see a more decisive and active Yuu in the next episodes.
Yeah, I’m still wondering about that. I stll don’t know where Charlotte is leading us. So far, it’s been going off to different directions and leaving these vague clues that still makes no sense to me.
It feels to me like a perfect kind of separator. Like it’s the seventh episode; there were six before it and there are going to be six more. If it ends up being possible to consider those two the distinct ‘halves’ of the show, Episode 7 does a good job being right between them, and leading from one to the other.
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This is episode is… Wow. I don’t have another word (In french have many word, but in english…)
The 30 first confirme all fear… Come on ! She can’t partir now ! And the Yandere live… Tss…
This episode is the best from my point de vue. See the falling of Yuu… But, the invisibility of Tomori is illimited ?
Personally, I love this is episode. He’s not happy, but the feeling…
But what killed Ayumi ? Whyyyyy ?! Take a another character… Why not the Yandere ? Kill the Yandere and come back Ayumi ! No ? It’s impossible… Ok…
And I wanna see again Nomura, the friend of Ayumi, I like it… She remember a character of a another manga…
Eh, that depends on what they are taking and what their state of mind is. All the ones I know are pretty accepting of comments speaking negatively of them. They don’t like it, but it’s nothing to really care about.
Do we know what the Japanese was? CR subs are pretty awful, so I don’t know if it’s a good tl.
It’s like context matters! 
To you, yes. To others, no. I think his previous actions, while slightly childish, were interesting. He was still Yuu, and he was clearly still attached to his school life as seen in his slight personality slips.
The point is that it was getting to the point where Yuu was going to lose himself. That’s what Nao refused.
Whether his actions were wrong or not, whether drugs are worse or better than violence, that’s not the point. He wasn’t stopped because those things are harmful. He was stopped because he wouldn’t be Yuu if he continued. For as long as we’ve known him, he’s been the kid who twists life to put himself on a podium. He’s not the kid who is disillusioned, desperate, and in denial.
I think you’re just against Nao’s timing. That she didn’t stop him earlier. It’s that “I want to do something if I can” kind of thinking.
We only had a single subject. You can’t generalize Yuu as every person with a mental illness.
Nao’s bro is pretty messed up, but he’s shown in a fairly good light.
Yuu didn’t seem to be self-destructive until he decided to try the drugs though. He could win every fight, and he knew it.
She might get in trouble for being the trigger.
She has a really nice hairstyle.
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What. I was gonna overlook this but… what? They showed Nao’s brother as a huge burden on Nao and essentially dead inside. I dunno what you consider good light but Charlotte’s treatment of mental illness is god awful.
Yeah, no. Like going around picking fights with people is like… literally the example of self destructive actions. ‘He won every fight’ that’s not the point. Like at all. Just because someone survives something doesn’t mean them doing it in the first place was a good idea.
I never saw him as a huge burden. If anything, he’s given Nao reason. And yeah, he’s dead inside. That’s what is wrong with him. That’s just matter of fact though… I see nothing wrong with it.
Good idea or not, Yuu can win a fight without ever being touched. I don’t think something is self destructive if you can do it over and over with no destruction ever befalling yourself. Maybe if he fought someone who was clearly stronger than him I’d agree with you, but he didn’t.
