Angel Beats! - Visual Novel Details & Ongoing Speculation

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#193

I just thought of something horrific!

Every time a route ends in this thing, the character either is still there on reset to common, or is obliterated. IF the character is obliterated, they are gone in the next go through and if they are still there you can’t do that route again.

Check it: When you complete a route and a character and Otonashi get all romance-y, and perhaps this could be some retconning OR just a better detailing of this dynamic that we don’t fully understand, love happens and the shadow program begins that wipes everyone out and restarts the world in a way that that doesn’t happen again. If a character is obliterated in this process, however, the program still activates- but doesn’t catch the character that is no longer in the world so they are then gone and forgotten in the next go through.

Just a basis of some theorizing on this games format.
The weak joints are non-romantic routes, of course, and what else would trigger the program.

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#194

holy…mother…of…

That just makes so much sense in the scariest way possible. It’s like… it gives a reason to the Visual Novel format as a whole (which is a trend we’ve been seeing ever since CLANNAD). It is also supported by Drama CD 3, that goddamn asshole.

#195

The whole obliteration (or not) and route locking and characters disappearing and all that stuff is just so exciting for me. It all just seems so surreal, like it couldn’t actually be this amazing.

I like your theory, but we know so little about the shadow program and Angel Player and the creator of all this in the first place that its hard to tell whats actually viable.

[quote=“Bizkitdoh, post:193, topic:277”]
The weak joints are non-romantic routes
[/quote]I don’t think so. After all, in the anime its caused by Yuri’s non-romantic love for the SSS.

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#196

Touche

#197

I really want that to be a thing. It would be just so much fun. If it turns out that it actually plays through that way, then what of character interactions? That would be an amazing dynamic. Especially if somebody calls out for a character that doesn’t exist. “Who are you talking about?” “Huh… Oh, why did I say that?” (Similar to (Clannad) Sunohara mentioning Fuuko.)

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#198

You’re in luck. Straight from Dengeki G

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#199

Actually, now that you mention it, it goes well with another theory that you made:

Maybe it’s not that they are sent back to the life they lead before dying, but they are reincarnated in their previous bodies. It would be natural that they wouldn’t appear in the next playthrough, since they will no longer have a regret, but when the others are reincarnated and die, they will still have that regret. That actually makes me think that that world was created for the sole sake of the SSS….

Of course, Kanade and Otonashi still remain an issue in that theory

#200

But it wasn’t. The creator of the Angel Player was there before them, and he was just a normal human like the rest of them, not the creator of the world. And Kanade seemed to have been there for at least a little while before Yuri helping people before. She had to have either met the creator or have somehow found the Angel Player on her own. AND the Another Episode showed the possibility of Otonashi staying after the SSS was gone to continue helping.

#201

IIRC the program isn’t aimed specifically at love. It’s aimed at anything that would cause a person to want to stay in the afterlife… or something like that.

#202

It was created to keep the afterlife from turning into an eternal eden. And thus, while they dont state in the 6 minutes that its given that its the only possible reason, its seems like love is likely the most probable.

#203

Yeah but the angel player needed to exist in order to help the SSS to move on, so maybe the world was created in such a way that it allowed for the creation of Angel Player before they even arrived in the world, just so it could facilitate their passing on
Just a theory tho :stuck_out_tongue:

That’s a more literal way of saying it, I think. I do remember when the programmer said “Love existed in the world” everyone thought it was obvious he was referring to Otonashi… but then he points at Yuri! and, well, that was actually unexpected for me.

#204

Oh, also possibly worthy of note that when asked about Angel Player, Maeda said that it was created long ago and that people were in that place long before, say, even Yuri ever showed up. Also we know that Kanade has had ‘friendships’ there before with people who were removed.

Perhaps it could be programmed to do this, but that’s already covered by, well, living daily life in the afterlife makes things happen already. The shadow program is specifically triggered when immense love is formed for the reason Yerian said. It’s described to target love, specifically.

#205

This is for you, @Bizkitdoh.

I really enjoyed the Angel Beats! anime, and I expect the visual novel to be just as good as, if not better than, the anime.

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#206

Does anyone know what Key just posted on their website? It has the banner of the VN on it and the word special. http://key.visualarts.gr.jp/info/2015/03/6.html

#207

It’s just talking about how Key/Visual Art’s is going to have a booth at Otaku Summit 2015 and they’ll have goods and other stuff for Angel Beats -1st beat- and Charlotte

#208

Heeeey I’m actually gonna be in Japan then. Perhaps I should visit…

Okay so to update, apparently this Otaku Summit 2015 thing is an anime convention in Japan… Targeted towards foreign anime fans. Organized by comiket organizers, too. So yeah, since Key is going global now, they’re slowly targeting foreign fans. Perhaps this would be a good time to make them aware of Kazamatsuri.org :slight_smile:

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#209

Tell them I’ve already given them 1.5k dollars and to let you have Sawashiro and Marina sign my Masami banner when you get it. www

#210

We don’t even know who’s gonna be there… yet :frowning:

#211

With the (Air)conclusion of the Minagi route in Air, written by Maeda and Kai- I find it important for me to now note how much I’m wishing that Kai wrote the Masami route, as I find the basis of their routes comparable and absolutely adore the Minagi route.

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#212

So on the official Key Twitter, Sekine and Irie had a conversation again. This time there was a almost nude Kanade and a picture of all the character sprite’s faces. Someone! Explain!