Key Scenario Writers discussion

Not for the whole route, just the last part of it. I’m guessing some people told Ryukishi to draw the route out a bit longer.

No, I don’t dislike Rewrite as a Key VN or anything. It’s a good VN. But it isn’t consistent. It’s a mess. That’s both a charm and a curse, but it’s a fact.

I’m getting the feeling that this talk might get moved to somewhere else, like the general VN thread or something. We’ll see.

I hereby voice my disagreement with that statement of yours.
After all, I am definitely a thinker. I need to know how and why everything happened and especially how certain ‘systems’ (separate worlds, parallel worlds, familiars, etc.) work. If a story ends with a big mindfuck (like Bioshock Infinite), I just HAVE to go around and look for the answers or try to find them on my own.
And yet, Key VNs are definitely my favorite ones.

Now here’s the thing: I do not think that certain parts of Key plots are “illogical nonsense”. Key magic, too, has a certain logic to it in every story. And while it’s certainly a bit too convenient at times, I never considered it inexplicable.

Well, maybe it still does apply to the majority of VN readers, me being an exception of sorts.

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Talking about the writers and how a VNs presentation was due to those writers is a-okay.
If you want to ever take the talk in that direction you can reply to a post in a separate thread.

On the topic of Rewrite- It’s multi-writer syndrome is the worst to me out of other VNs. Pretty straight forward. Other writer routes are fun and bring equally interesting things to the table, but the overall scenario overshadows everything else because Tanaka. I’d like to read it in JP some magical day.

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Well, “generally.” There are, and always will be exceptions. While they do have some logic behind them, some things are just too tough a pill to swallow, IMO.

Going back on topic, I think it’s mostly Jun Maeda who delves into Key Magic a lot. The other writers mostly like to deal with what still remains in the realm of reality.

I really very much share the same opinions here, I really like how the vast majority of the time it isn’t just “Key Magic” and that’s it, there’s a logic behind it and a consistency behind the “magic”. But then (little busters vn sasami spoilers) I didn’t like the scene with Kyousuke communicating with Riki. There was consistency in all the magic and stuff that I really loved, but that scene seemed to just make no sense >_>. I really praise the anime for sorting literally all of the consistency problems (there was a little confusion at the end of refrain with the whole resetting the bus crash scene to attempt to save them) - It skipped that scene and the scene in Sasami’s route.

I don’t think it sorted all of them. I think it made some inconsistencies (that I never even noticed in the VN) stand out more. Admittedly I was paying more attention to Refrain when watching the anime, but I heard lots of people struggle to make sense of the whole “Going to the real world! Oh, back to the fake world! And we’re in the real world!” thing. I think they messed up on explaining Riki getting over his memories of the car crash and curing his narcolepsy too.

Ah yeah I suppose it got rid of that confusion but didn’t include the parts of it that were important. It did seem a bit silly for them to just chill out a bit on a hill and then say “oh okay i guess we could try and save them”, it gave off the impression to me like they wasted a lot of time there but it didn’t matter.

I agree completely. I am a “thinker” as well, and to me that just means that Im gonna like Rewrite even if its that different form other Key works. But I agree with @Pepe. Most people I know who dont like Key site the “Key magic” or really just aren’t “feelers”

Just found this thread. I had no idea who had written the routes in Kanon, so I’m glad someone pointed that out.

[quote=“JDAM_Cid, post:2, topic:459”]
Mai: Jun Maeda
[/quote]So the length of Mai’s route was all Maeda’s fault, huh? Well, nobody’s perfect.

[quote=“JDAM_Cid, post:2, topic:459”]
Ayu: Naoki Hisaya
Shiori: Naoki Hisaya
[/quote]I’m beginning to wonder if the guy lost his touch over time, if Sora no Method was really that bad.

[quote=“JDAM_Cid, post:2, topic:459”]
Misuzu: Jun Maeda
AIR arc: Jun Maeda
[/quote]Knew as much.

[quote=“JDAM_Cid, post:2, topic:459”]
Nagisa: Jun Maeda
Tomoyo: Jun Maeda
Fuuko: Jun Maeda
Yukine: Jun Maeda (First Half)
Misae: Jun Maeda
Koumura: Jun Maeda
After Story: Jun Maeda
[/quote]I knew Maeda had a huge, personal hand in writing CLANNAD, but this is ridiculous.

[quote=“Pepe, post:1, topic:459”]
Haruka: Chika Shirokiri
Kud: Chika Shirokiri
Kanata: Chika Shirokiri
Kud Wafter: Chika Shirokiri
[/quote]Never have I felt such mixed feelings about a scenario writer before. May you forever remain in an awkward place in my heart, Shirokiri. T_T7

[quote=“Pepe, post:1, topic:459”]
Lucia: Ryukishi07
[/quote]Now I’m really looking forward to Rewrite. :slight_smile:

[quote=“Pepe, post:25, topic:459”]
I think it’s mostly Jun Maeda who delves into Key Magic a lot. The other writers mostly like to deal with what still remains in the realm of reality.
[/quote]I don’t believe that in the slightest. That would mean Rewrite has no Key Magic at all…Does it?

There are some scenario writers that like to delve into Key Magic, but I think Maeda’s stories have the best execution of Key Magic, and he’s gotten better through trial-and-error. I know Shirokiri and especially Tonokawa delved into Key Magic before with Little Busters!, and Hisaya had some of that going in Kanon, too. It’s just that they tend to play it safe and try to keep their stories as realistic as possible, only using Key Magic when it’s absolutely necessary. Maeda, on the other hand, uses the stuff as a resolution all the time. I mean, look at CLANNAD.

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It basically doesn’t in my opinion. It’s a very non-traditional Key game.

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Lucia’s route is one of my favourites in any Key VN

[quote=“EisenKoubu, post:30, topic:459”]I don’t believe that in the slightest. That would mean Rewrite has no Key Magic at all…Does it?
[/quote]
Without spoiling, off the top of my head I think Chihaya and Shizuru have a tiny bit at the end but there is very little Key Magic in Rewrite.

Ohhh god I was thinking the same thing. I dunno, maybe he had an issue with the anime medium? Who knoooows

Both of those being written by Tonokawa, one of the more traditional writers :wink:

But I think Key magic refers more to a “deus ex machina” sort of thing that they are working towards in the background. It’s very in-your-face in Rewrite, so I see it less as Key magic, and more of a setting

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I suppose so, I was thinking of Kotarou turning into Sakuya basically as minor Key Magic. I guess I missed Terra though as that happens at the end too.

Yuto Tonokawa, Jun Maeda and Ryukishi07 are my favorites. Seeing this, I’m expecting less of Kud Wafter. Chika Shirokiri wrote Haruka’s route, which was the one I least enjoyed (maybe because I didn’t like Haruka very much…), he also wrote Kud’s route (which I found confusing…)

Not sure where to put this, but I’m on the hunt for the biggest, best quality photo of Jun Maeda I can find. Can anyone help me out? Do you have magazines of his pretty face you can scan for me? <3

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Is this for a Daki?

I’ve always used the images from that Angle Butts interview a while back for all my Maeda needs, they’re the first things to show up on Google. They’re not big, but the quality is sound.

Dakimakura? O_O. Nah, I don’t think @Aspirety would go to that extreme. Maeda has a lot of qualities, but beauty isn’t one of them (if any man in the world can have this quality).

Besides, dakimakuras are sexual toys, so if he was looking for that he would probably be searching for half-naked or sensual photos of him (or of other bodies if he would edit it).

uh

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Kyousuke isn’t ugly. Kyousuke is in a sensual position in this daki. And besides, Kyousuke is the perfect person to look at when you wake up from a nightmare.

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