I think it’s going to be Yuu. If he receives major development in the story, a good part of his development must come from helping others. I also don’t think Tomoya is the type to help, but he did it. Dulcinea effect? Perhaps…
I mean if the help just comes from student council president as a whole, it will be much more a duty than something actually genuine. And I don’t think that’d be really useful to the story or character development.
Thing is, they work as a group. Whether its by duty or by desire, they will do it. There have been countless times where helping others transcends simple “duty”. Take Plastic Memories, for instance (I’m just using this because I just watched it earlier). Even though it’s only Tsukasa’s job to collect those giftia, he does it out of his desire to help those who are part of his job.
So no, duty does not mean less genuine or less useful character development. And I don’t believe it’s only going to be Yuu who will be developing from helping out in the student council.
All those Dengeki G’s scans make me tempted to actually pick up the magazine for once *_*
You can be right, but… The major development, focus of the whole story can be his. I don’t know how it was in AB!, but LB! was like this. If AB! was like you’re saying, Charlotte probably will be as well.
Errr… No. Let me explain first why I said I’d like Charlotte as an all-girls show.
All-girls shows rely on friendship rather than romance, but I still really like romantic stories. The thing is, I think friendship is more ‘beautiful’ than romance. First, because friendship is platonic, and doesn’t include the sexual aspect. Second, because I think it’s something a lot more complex than romance. With romance it’s like “Hey, let’s date or marry.”. Friendship just becomes friendship after hard work and when people really know each other. And you don’t delude yourself attributing values to things like kissing or even overlooking the other person’s flaws. You see the truth and you like the truth.
But I still really like well done romance, but my reception of it is quite different. I can understand, for example, when a guy falls for a girl (because I’ve already passed through that). But I can’t grasp how a girl can like a guy, because I’m not a girl and I’ve never fallen for a guy. So, this is how I see romance: the guy likes the girl and the girl stays with him because he fulfills her necessities and treats her well, not because she likes him romantically. If you say Nao is the one who falls for Yuu, then it’d be a strange concept to me, contradictory to my vision of romance. (I tried watching Ao Haru Ride with my imouto, that explores the girl’s feelings, but I didn’t like it at all.)
And don’t you think it’s strange that out of all people in our social circles, we like the same ones who like us? Not denying the existence of one side love, but look at how many couples are there in the world.
No, no, no. It’s not like that too. Emotions don’t have to be simple or too explicit for me to understand. After all, I’m a human being. In those kinds of stories, the characters are explored and they go from flat to complex. You see them through personal moments with different feelings and you can really know them.
In real life, I don’t see more than the surface, because I don’t get close enough to people. I myself have contradictory feelings, desires, difficulties, fears, etc. But when I look at other people, they don’t really look human. I can’t know why do they do certain things, how do they feel, how do they think; but this is just because I’m not close to them that their interior is a mystery for me. But if I were, I would understand them.
No, I do want to understand character’s feelings. But also (forgot to add this) I don’t understand how can a girl fall in love, because a girl has never detailed those feelings for me. (The closest I got was from a girl who was talking to a dude she met on PS3. But then, I think it was just that she wanted an ‘adventure’. Proof of that, is that all her boyfriends are from the internet, and some even married.). So, this is why Nao–>Yuu crush would be hard for me to grasp.
I think there are so very many things wrong with this…
And again,
Guess what: that feeling of “when a guy falls for a girl” is just the same as “when a girl falls for a guy”. There are many ways to “fall” for a person, and none of them are limited by gender. Stop trying to think of them as “girls” but think of them equally as human beings.
How is that different from:
Once again: That is severely limiting. If you can’t like something that you don’t understand, then that’s limiting.
In fact you’re being very contradictory when you say:
If you want to understand a character’s feelings, but you don’t understand them, then guess what? You go and try to understand them. You think, and you discuss, and you try to empathize. That’s the beauty of emotionally deep stories: when you try to understand them.
So, again, if you can’t understand it, and at the same time refuse to try and understand it, then that will limit the kind of emotionally engaging stories that you will be able to appreciate.
Related to this tangential discussion and Charlotte, I’d say that in many Key stories the protagonist had to first make an effort in understanding himself to move forward. (No, this isn’t a response to anything in particular.) Will we see that there, in Charlotte? There was only really one Key story that comes to mind where this didn’t occur, so I’d say yes.
What I’m wondering now, then, is what sorts of backstories we’ll see starting to get unraveled. Do we yet know how the “magic school” is viewed (in general within the Charlotte world) compared to normal schools? IIRC, not everybody is “magic.” (Yes, I’m calling it “magic,” for now.)
Anyway, I don’t have much else in terms of speculation for Charlotte as a whole. I’ll just wait for the next character topic~
This is going on a very unrelated tangent. I’m going to start flagging posts as off-topic if this continues.
Okay, so since I’ve read this whole thing about Sala having a backstory when she’s not the main character. I’m just making an assumption, but remember Kanon ? How Sayuri had a backstory which was basically shown in Mai’s story ? Couldn’t it just be possible that some of the side characters that have back stories would be put into the characters that are gonna be shown with back stories (if that made sense). You would take 3-6 side characters with stories that will actually relate to the overall plot and help stimulate the ending, then within their own stories, you would put side characters who aren’t as needed for the plot inside of there, shown when we learned about Sayuri’s past in Mai’s arc. Personally, I felt like Angel beats! was a beautiful story, and I love how the visual novel is gonna explore the back stories, but I think it’s kinda pointless. Having Angel beats! done, with the shadows, then going into each backstory. That seems too forced and will probably get boring, that’s the one major flaw for me, is having all the routes forced upon the story with nothing but routes 1 by 1.
I like your idea IF (and only IF) Charlotte is one cour. Otherwise, there’d be no need for that.
The thing is: they may seem pointless to the plot, but they are all related to the stories’ themes. Like a mosaic, sometimes the figures aren’t part of the others, but they combine with each other creating a beautiful picture.
Also, you can’t forget that Sayuri had her own (mini)route in the original VN, the way you put it was because that’s how the anime organized it, if I’m not wrong.
Yeah, that definitely seems possible to me.
Well, with Charlotte being an anime-specific project (as opposed to AB!, and Kanon) the way it’s told might differ. Instead of trying to adapt a story to a VN structure they might be able to tell it in a way that isn’t quite as sequential as the AB!, Kanon, et al. anime were. That is, we might get to see each character have development alongside other characters, instead of one at a time. That sort of development might be spurred by some of the side stories presented to the characters. (e.g., a character with a backstory going to the student council and requesting something related to their club, potentially leading to exploration of the character’s backstory, with the fulfillment of the request being a part of the side story.) This isn’t too uncommon in anime. For example, most of Oregairu’s events were caused (either directly or indirectly) by requests made to their club. So your overall idea has merit to it as far as I can tell.
Yeah Angel Beats is already a complete story, and those side characters are just that, side characters, they’re flat and just there to give the illusion that the SSS is full to make it seem like something big.
They have no need for routes, it is forced and I can’t see the writers getting into it enough to make some good stuff.
Angel Beats doesn’t need a VN.
Actually. If you have 3-6 characters, it’ll need to be a 2 course, considering then, you still have the 4 main cast members too. Not to mention the common route (I call it that, since it’s basically just character introduction) and the final showdown.
But if it’s 2 or 3 cour, there’d be no need to put the characters’ stories “into” other stories, since there’d be enough time to explore the stories individually.
There would actually. Since there are more characters in Charlotte than in Angel beats, this means that they probably have stories too, and would have to be put inside other stories that are bigger concepts.
Just in 2 cour too, but not 3 cour. 3 cour surely would work out with individual stories.
Why would they do 3 course -.- This is an anime original, meaning it’ll only be 13-26 episodes, considering its P.A. Works, and Key.
Key has money. P.A. Works too. I doubt it’ll be 3 cours because it’s too risky for an original anime, but there’s still the possibility.
That possibility is a joke. 3 course is a joke for Charlotte. When people do anime originals, especially Key, the story is always only 1 course through 2 courses.
