Ahhhhh, OK. I misunderstood what you meant my animation. Probably because, as you said, we were just thinking about it differently, including different elements in our own definitions. Thank you so much for explaining in such detail, really interesting to read! (b^^)b
You might as well have written “please look down on me”
For whatever reasons, you seem to get most passionate about things that you misunderstand. I’ll try to explain the situation as well as I can this time.
So imagine this discussion as a real-life situation, where all participants (including you, me and Kotarou) are sitting in a room, talking about that girl all of us know. Let’s call her Girl C. We met Girl C at a party last night. Once again, Girl C is getting criticized for all kinds of things.
As we are about to run out of things to talk about, Kotarou mentions Girl C’s eyelashes and proceeds to talk fiercely about them for 10 minutes, about how he doesn’t like her eyelashes, about how her eyelashes could’ve been more beautiful and why she’s didn’t use the same eyelash extensions as the girls in Girl U’s family.
My reaction to his talk is that I’m giving him a weird look, saying “Seriously? You’re talking smack about her because of her eyelashes?” Prompted to explain myself, I elaborate: “In the first place, who cares about that? Her looks are somewhat average to above average. She’s fine. Her eyelashes didn’t stand out in any way and neither does the rest of her looks, so why are you focusing on that? It’d be a different matter if her make-up was particularly weird or if she was the only girl on the party not wearing any make-up. I don’t see how the eyelashes of all things are a reason to think badly about her. You ought to stop the nitpicking.”
I’m annoyed, since the whole eyelashes talk seems like nitpicking to me, maybe even an excuse to join in on trash-talking Girl C. That may or may not be the case, but the focus on the eyelashes is definitely weird.
Suddenly, silly’s passion is triggered. He shoots up, slamming his hands on the table. “OH GOD HOW WRONG ARE YOU. Don’t look down on make-up! You’re underrating girls who are putting a lot of work into their outfits and make-up every time! It may not be important to you, but it’s very important to me!” And then he goes on about how Girl C’s looks are lacking passion, dedication and inspiration.
I never said that it makes no difference whether girls are putting on make-up or not. I pointed out that, since Girl C’s looks aren’t that outstanding (neither exceptionally good, bad or weird), it’s strange, and to me, even annoying, to go into so much detail over the eyelashes, and even criticize her for them.
What I did say was how I don’t like the trash-talk on Girl C and that there was no real reason to criticize her eyelashes.
The thing is, we didn’t run out of things to talk about. It’s just an issue, like all others.
[quote=“Naoki_Saten, post:180, topic:1313, full:true”] Her eyelashes didn’t stand out in any way and neither does the rest of her looks, so why are you focusing on that? It’d be a different matter if her make-up was particularly weird or if she was the only girl on the party not wearing any make-up. I don’t see how the eyelashes of all things are a reason to think badly about her. You ought to stop the nitpicking."
I never said that it makes no difference whether girls are putting on make-up or not. I pointed out that, since Girl C’s looks aren’t that outstanding (neither exceptionally good, bad or weird), it’s strange, and to me, even annoying, to go into so much detail over the eyelashes, and even criticize her for them.
What I did say was how I don’t like the trash-talk on Girl C and that there was no real reason to criticize her eyelashes.
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Do you think Charlotte’s story is outstanding up to now? I don’t. I don’t think it’s exceptionally good or bad. So should we stop discussing it? As well as all other animes that have a story with average story?
Your example was really funny. But it would be much more appropriate to represent visuals as all of her looks. Isn’t that what visuals really are? When you reduce those things to eyelashes, you are still putting them down. And that’s what you think, but I don’t.
But… Isn’t not liking it enough of a reason to criticise it? Whether you see it as pointless, or weird, or whatever… It matters to other people. That’s what criticism exists for. To point out things that people may not like.
If someone cares about something, or is let down by something, and feels the need to bring it up, then their criticism is worth at least some recognition… I don’t agree with Silly’s opinion, but I can understand it, acknowledge it, and argue for it. It’s a worthwhile opinion.
I can understand if you’re just annoyed by the negative reaction to Charlotte, or if you aren’t bothered by the same things Silly is… But don’t tell someone their opinion doesn’t mean anything. That’s just insulting.
The argument has been clarified multiple times now. If you still don’t understand or agree, then we should all just agree to disagree. Repetitive clarification won’t solve anything.
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All of us are either expecting, hoping or losing hope for the story of Charlotte to become outstanding. Thus, we discuss it. Discussing is fine. It’s the nitpicking that annoys me. Remember the “not this pizza sause shit again” complaints about earlier episodes?
The equivalents are:
eyelashes = color palette
looks = visuals
Girl C = Charlotte
Girl U = an Ufotable anime
That’s why I found it nitpicky. Color palette is just a fraction of the overall visuals.
The more you criticize something, the worse you’re making it look. The amount of criticism on Charlotte bothers me because it makes the anime look quite bad, which it isn’t. And let’s be honest, most of the criticism stems from the difference between what we expect and what we get. Yes, everyone has the right to criticize things. But overdoing it is kinda bad. As I mentioned before, the negativity is ruining my mood and the piling up of things to criticise (and repeating them) has been happening every week lately.
To me, visuals are rather low-priority and I don’t care about details like color palette or backgrounds if they don’t stand out in some way. Of course, it’s better to see great visuals than not so great ones, but they’re pretty low on my priority list. That’s my personal bias. I guess I shouldn’t have said “they don’t matter…” like it’s an objective fact, since it’s not. My bad.
I absolutely love that you put in the recipe for it 
I’ll be sure to try it myself, when I can get my hands on some beef tongue. Thanks!
Is there a food topic?
Besides that, the dish looks great! And now I’m hungry.
A FOOD TOPIC
YES
It would be fun to try out Ayumi’s pizza sauce. What could happen?
[quote=“Naoki_Saten, post:183, topic:1313, full:true”] Yes, everyone has the right to criticize things. But overdoing it is kinda bad. As I mentioned before, the negativity is ruining my mood and the piling up of things to criticise (and repeating them) has been happening every week lately.
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So, if we were praising those stuff, would you like it?
That joke was just a very tiny fraction of the episode. Character development is just a fraction of a character. And using your argument, there is absolutely no point in the “Best Key OP” thread, since the opening just represents almost 5% of the whole episode of an anime (this percentage is even a lot lower in VNs)…
[quote=“Takafumi, post:182, topic:1313, full:true”] then we should all just agree to disagree.
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modus vivendi desu~
I didn’t even think to look for the food topic, but it turns out it exists! Not sure If I should cross-post to it, though. Don’t want to be a double-poster and incite rage.
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Listen properly to what people say before you ‘reply’.
Go sit in a corner and think about what you just said.
Know what? I give up. Just have in mind that your complaints will result in nothing next time. Let people talk about what they want. If you don’t like it, you just don’t participate or try to raise another topic in the discussion.
Besides, I have no idea about the meaning of your last phrase…
The full OP and ED are out now!
I was wondering if if anyone has translated lyrics for the full tracks for both Bravely You, and Yake Ochinai Tsubasa?
I was going to do some Sherock Holmes mode analysis if I could find anywhere that had translated lyrics yet lol
Well, the preview for episode 9 kinda spoils everything that will happen next; I’m kinda sad I watched it, now i won’t get the surprise while watching the episode.
Is it any worse than previews for major events normally are? From my experience they seem to spoil it but keep a few things a surprise.
Edit: nvm just watched it. Holy crap who thought that was a good idea?
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Ep 9 PV Spoilers Wouldn’t it be beautiful if it was all a flashback, and Ayumi is actually dead after all?
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9 PV Flashback to when? Unless Ayumi was put in the same type of machine in Nao’s backstory during the events of Charlotte (because of her height). I can’t see this being a flashback
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ep 9 PV spoilers Well, Yuu has missing memories, so I do think that is possible and I’d actually prefer that. I see Yuu getting back some more memories from listening to ZHIEND, because if you remember episode 5, he had some flashbacks while he was sleeping and listening to it. I really hope it is a flashback like that.
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Pleeease be the case. Surely Maeda isn’t that far gone, right? ;_;
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