Bowiie and Iotheria's Key Panel

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#8

I agree with both Pepe and Kaze here. First of all you need to have a clear target what you want to distribute the most - clannad, angel beats for example. So you might focus mostly on Key works that are more famous than the others even tho you might think other works are better. But that is only if you are seriously going for people that knows nothing about Key.

FIrst off take in consider that the ops are around 1:30 minutes long and if you have 30 minutes… well dont mind my math but you will have to be careful about that. I wouldnt personally put ALL the ops there, it just takes too much time imo.

Also I would personally like to see charlotte in it. I mean you can go like “hey do you know that there is going to be a new anime in july from Key?” And that may raise attention to the people that checks the anime seasons and what is coming up. They might be like “Oh yeah I have heard about that, so its from Key huh?” - Ya know, it may be a success into getting to know Key too… but if you do plan on mentioning Charlotte, I would put it somewhere at the end.

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#9

What is the aim of the panel? Is there going to be a conclusion or a satisfying ending? Do you have things to build up to, or a main question that needs to be answered?

@Clannad_Man did some panel stuff. He might have tips.

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#10

Well that’s more I’m assuming my audience will know nothing about Key, in other words that’s how I’m going to approach the presentation as opposed to if I was going to talk to you guys about Key I wouldn’t feel the need to point out certain things. Ideally I want to run though the main games (leaving out the side stuff Kud wafter HF etc.), and I’m planning on mentioning Clannad/Angel Beats right from the start as sort of a hook to introduce it anyway.

[quote=“IkaCZ, post:8, topic:1217”]
FIrst off take in consider that the ops are around 1:30 minutes long and if you have 30 minutes… well dont mind my math but you will have to be careful about that. I wouldnt personally put ALL the ops there, it just takes too much time imo.
[/quote]Yeah OP idea is nixed once I thought about the timing of everything (read I didn’t think about the timing before now).

I’m planning it as more an introduction panel, I feel like most of the people around here have probably seen clannad or Angel Beats without realizing that they are both from Key, so the aim of the panel I guess is more to introduce them to something new, and if they enjoyed Clannad to show them that there is more out there in a similar vein from the same people that made Clannad. I know I got into Key without knowing I was getting into Key. I watched Clannad, Kanon, and Air before I ever realized they were all made by Key.

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#11

That’s what I’d do. Be the gateway drug that lets people know there’s this whole world of Key waiting to be unlocked DOHOHO

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#12

Definitely gotta mention a fair bit about Charlotte. It’s going to be the most easily accessible new Key work (legally), so it would be great to tell them how they can watch it, and when it is, and maybe even play the PV.
I think maybe playing the Rewrite OP at least would be good, because it’s so different from other Key works, it might get some people hyped up and interested.

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#13

Ofc the translated one, and give props to Kaza web ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).

I definitely agree with you. I mean I met a person that havent watched a single Key anime, but played rewrite so you have a point.
I think aspi once said that Rewrite is the most un-Key ish VN they ever made (or something like that).
Still I think it has a lot of potential to draw a lot of people inside the Key world :p.

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#14

Perhaps, but people who like Rewrite won’t necessarily like other Key works.

Try to search for PVs of the games, as they are shorter than the OPs. If you can’t find, present PVs from the animes.

As Rewrite isn’t that well-known and different, I think it’s a good idea. Another option would be Kanon’s OP, since it’s the first Key work.

#15

I’d love to show the Moon OP but do you think it would be a bit spoilery?

[quote=“sillylittlemelody, post:14, topic:1217”]
Try to search for PVs of the games, as they are shorter than the OPs. If you can’t find, present PVs from the animes.
[/quote]I like this idea, I may just pick a few PV’s to show during the panel (if I can find them) Charlotte or Harmonia will be one for sure.

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#16

Yeah I think it is. The normal OP is fine I think, because it has the moment halfway through that is the shock factor.

#17

I can confirm that the Moon OP is NOT spoilery if you dont know what is being spoiled. So it should be fine.

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#18

[quote=“Yerian, post:17, topic:1217”]
I can confirm that the Moon OP is NOT spoilery if you dont know what is being spoiled. So it should be fine.
[/quote]Well I say that because if you don’t know anything going into Rewrite its a little spoilery because (Rewrite spoilers of course) You see all the characters running around with weapons and Kotarou’s claws and some of the fights

#19

Exactly. I dont know what it is because I don’t know what it is (if that makes any sense).
All I can say is that the Moon OP was literally my first introduction to Rewrite and I still have no idea what its about. All it did was make me extremely hype for the VN.

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#20

The Moon OP is spoilery, but it’s the kind of spoilers that get you EXTREMELY hyped to read the VN. I mean, it’s not meant to be a secret that there is supernatural stuff happening in Rewrite, it’s explained pretty clearly in I think the first day that Kotarou has some kind of superpower, so there’s that. I mean, as much as it is ideal for people to go into Rewrite with no knowledge of the later story arcs, seeing that Moon OP is what gets people hyped for the VN in the first place. I know it did for me when they released that OP on the VisualArt’s channel a few months before release. So yes, I definitely recommend doing it. It’ll build interest in the VN.

Just make sure you make it clear that it’s NOT an anime XP

If you wanna use screenshots from each of the games for reference, you’re more than welcome to sample the images from Kazamatsuri.org’s information pages! They’re sure to help you collecting information to talk about as well.

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#21

Ditto. Saw the OP when they released it, was still affected by that big common route moment as much as you’d expect.

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#22

Ok you’ve convinced me to show it, they hype level is too stronk with it.

[quote=“Aspirety, post:20, topic:1217”]
If you wanna use screenshots from each of the games for reference, you’re more than welcome to sample the images from Kazamatsuri.org’s information pages! They’re sure to help you collecting information to talk about as well.
[/quote]I’m making liberal use of the info pages when I’m writing up the sections for each game lol

[quote=“Takafumi, post:21, topic:1217”]
Ditto. Saw the OP when they released it, was still affected by that big common route moment as much as you’d expect.
[/quote] Good to hear I had never seen the Moon OP until I had actually hit Moon so I had no clue what it was like to see it before playing the game.

#23

Seems that the others have already given a number of suggestions, but if you’re looking for some more input I’ll try to help. As Takafumi mentioned I’ve led panels & given presentations on similar topics before so I have experience in how these can be run effectively.

With such a small timeslot, time management will be of utmost importance. Determine how long it will take you to cover each topic you wish to discuss and try not to get behind. I go through about a dozen full practices of my presentations to make sure the timing is right. I’d also suggest engaging the audience throughout your panel; it will keep them engaged and focused on what you have to say. Finally, regardless of how many people are present, relax and have fun! Conventions are a place where you can showcase your love for various anime/VNs/manga etc. so let it shine foe everyone there!

Have fun and best of luck! I’m looking forward to giving a presentation of my own on Angel Beats! next week and I’m getting pumped!! xD

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#24

[quote=“Clannad_Man, post:23, topic:1217”]
so I have experience in how these can be run effectively.
[/quote]Honestly this is the part that worries me the most, I’ve done a lot of public speaking stuff and going smoothly is one thing I always struggle with.

[quote=“Clannad_Man, post:23, topic:1217”]
With such a small timeslot, time management will be of utmost importance.
[/quote]I’ve been kicking myself for a while now for only applying for the 30 minute slot instead of the full hour cause I’m cutting stuff that I would really like to have in there. lol

[quote=“Clannad_Man, post:23, topic:1217”]
Determine how long it will take you to cover each topic you wish to discuss and try not to get behind.
[/quote]This is my working point right now, I really want to cover everything, but I have to determine how long each section is going to get.

Would you care to expand on this a bit, I have been planning on taking questions, but was planning on holding that till the end to keep from breaking everything up and eating up time. What others ways would you suggest to engage them?

#25

Get a lot of practice in front of your friends, using exact setup you’ll use during the panel (or as close as possible). This way you’ll at least be familiar with the technical setup, gauge the timing, identify potential problems, and sort out your performance. Ask their opinion, of course.

That’s what my prof always tell me. xD

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#26

One of the ways I like to engage the audience is through audio-visuals. I embed pictures and videos in my presentations to help set the mood while I’m speaking. For instance, I’ll take music that the audience is familiar with and adjust the volume so that it is subdued and relatively consistent throughout. At the same time I’ll have muted videos playing in the background encoded in a format that works best with the version of PowerPoint I’m using. This way, the audience has a variety of areas they can focus on and switch between based off of their preference. A goal in adding these should be to find the right balance between setting the mood and not becoming overpowering or distracting the audience from what you are saying.

Another way to engage the audience is by adding questions throughout a presentation and postpone taking questions until the end. This allows the presenter to establish a flow and cadence which would otherwise be difficult to predict. I typically include about 6-7 planned questions per hour and incentivize the audience to answer by offering prizes to those that answer correctly. I choose audience members at random (via distribution of numbered tickets) and allow anyone in the audience to shout out their answers and help (sort of like The Price is Right). I’ve found this to be very effective as a way of keeping the audience focused on what I have to say as they try to find hints for follow-up questions.

If you’d like me to link to a presentation I gave as an example just let me know. (Got to run for now! ^^; )

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#27

So today was the day for our little attempt at running a panel so here is the post game wrap up post.

Mistakes were made and lessons were learned, chiefly being that 30 minutes is not enough time even if we are attempting to trim the information down to the most bare bones of the bare bones. We had too much content to try and cram into a 30 minute segment to start with which allowed no times for the unexpected, which of course there was some. I had created a powerpoint presentation that played the op movies for the games while we talked about the games; however, my laptop screen was broken so it was basically unusable so we checked on Friday with an organizer to see if we could get a laptop to use and were told it wouldn’t be a problem so we exited Friday feeling like everything was in order.

Saturday morning rolls around and the door open at 10 which is when the panel starts so we show up at 9:30 thinking to get a head start only to be told we would be let in at 9:50 to give us a few minutes to set up. We are finally allowed in and we start to get ready so we ask about the laptop. You could instantly see that the guy had forgot about it so he starts making phone calls to see where the video guy is to see about getting a laptop. (As an aside we assumed we would be getting the small panel room, but to our surprise we ended up getting the main event hall first thing in the morning). So we get an update around 9:55 that video guy is about 30 minutes out, he had overslept so we had no laptop. People start to go into panic mode around this point, and finally they decide to borrow a laptop from another room where it wasn’t being used.

10:08 rolls around and finally everything is ready laptop, sound, video, everything. Only problem being that we are 10 minutes into our 30 minute panel and were only just about to start. The guy who had the next panel was very kind and told us to take our time since we got a late start, but it wasn’t really an option since our laptop was on loan and had to be returned. Fortunately this was the only real hiccup as everything else went smoothly for the most part. Our already gutted presentation was gutted further when we got the general wrap up sign as we started talking about Rewrite. We buzzed through Rewrite quickly and mentioned Harmonia off hand before showing the PV for Charlotte and squeezing as much info in as possible.

I had decided to hold a raffle style drawing at the end of the panel and give away a copy of Planetarian on steam. We had made and handed out papers to everyone that had general info on where you could find and purchase each game, these pages were numbered and I quickly drew a number and luckily got a winner on the first draw, and that drew the panel to a close, just in time as people were coming in for the next panel.

We were moderately worried about attendance not knowing how many people would be interested in key around us, and having the first panel of the day while people were still arriving (another aside the tech guy that was assigned to our panel was a huge key fan and helped us out a ton so mad props to him). As we started it was a bit as I feared seeing how we had one person in the audience that wasn’t a member of our group. I was happily surprised though as the panel went on more and more people filtered in as they began to arrive and we handed out all 20 of the copies of the info page I had made. Unfortunately due to running show short on time we were unable to take any questions from the audience which I had planned on doing before hand.

As far as the content goes I feel like we covered enough we were able to cover major points all the way up to LB! which is where we began to cut pretty heavily. We got in a mention about Clannad coming out in October and even got a Kaza plug in mentioning the AIR bookclub (also included in the info sheets to visit Kaza for more info).

All in all I feel alright about the panel with running into the time wall keeping me from feeling good about it, but it was mildly expected to a point. For a first time panelist it was fun/frustrating/exhausting experience that still managed to feel rewarding if for not other reason than giving away a copy of Planetarian to someone who had never heard of it before. Lessons were learned about all aspects of the process from preparation to execution and beyond that will be invaluable should we decide to attempt this again.

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