Love Song General Discussion

[Love Song]

I’m trying to look at how all the songs work together in sequence. It’s kinda like analyzing the plot/pacing of a conventional story. I found that there are some pretty distinct “arcs.” Tracks 1-4 mainly establish basic information like the MC’s emotions and that the girl is dead. Tracks 5-7 give a lot more specific details, though it’s up to interpretation how many of them you believe should be taken literally. There’s a lot of focus on the couple’s childhood, and that culminates in a sort of mini arc about the girl’s death in tracks 8-9. After all that information, tracks 10-12 build upon that to tells a consecutive narrative about reconciliation and acceptance. Finally, track 13 is a form of afterword helping with details and interpretations of the previous songs. (We had Biz to do that though.) So if we illustrate the structure of these arcs, it’d be like this.

1-4: Basic information and emotions
5-7: Backstory
↳8-9: Reactions to the girl’s death
10-12: Apotheosis
13: Afterword

That’s basically a three act structure right there. It even places the central moment that decides everything two thirds in so it’s closer to where a climax would be even though it happened way earlier chronologically.

Of course, the original idea I had was to look at songs individually, so let’s do that.
Hajimari no Saka starts us off at a very normal point. There’s nothing otherworldly and we’re seemingly in modern society. Storywise, we only learn that the couple will “end” which is a very open statement. There are of course a lot of things that could be seen as foreshadowing. Emotionally the song is somber, but not necessarily anything extreme. Basically, it lays a good ground to start from.
Ao no Yume is an immediate peak in engagement. It’s faster, less logical and has a spooky ending. It also has the line about the girl never waking anymore, so she’s dead at 90% certainty.
After that we get to the part that confuses me. Both Hoshi ni Naru Ishi and Hashiru seem like songs that are building up to something. I also think the two are very similar in that they focus on a search, though Hoshi ni Naru Ishi starts giving details on the couple’s childhood. There’s nothing wrong with them both being build up, but the next song isn’t really a payoff as much as it shifts gears completely.
Hyakunen no Natsu is a lot slower and has more power in it’s vocals compared to Hashiru. As I said, this is also where we start learning about the backstory along with the next track. This and Bokura no Koi actually are very similar and work well together. They are both narratives about the two spending time together that are shown to be retrospective towards the end. I think that’s perfect because I’d argue that the entire album is retrospective. That’s kind of how death works: It’s bad to lose someone, but the worse part is how they stay dead after that. These retrospectives are of course building up to the actual death. We hear about what happened before and after, but the further we go, the closer we’re getting to that fateful moment.
Haiiro no Hane is a middle ground between the retrospective build up and disaster.
Gramophone and Shinwa is what all that build up gives us. They are far removed from the situation as if we’re avoiding the truth. However, they obviously revolve around great pain represented by the machine destroying itself and the world ending. These songs also have tons of sound going on. Shinwa in particular is a very stressful song.
Beyond that stress lies Kooridokei, a song about false acceptance and the first part of the final plot. The song leads up to a moment of realization that MC is going about this in the completely wrong fashion. That moment is what I feel is encapsulated in the next two songs. After the realization that something is wrong, we accept that the illusion is just that in Orenai Tsubasa, and then the MC learns to accept himself in the song that has way too long of a titleSoshite Monogatari ga Owaru.

So with only that little sudden transition between tracks 4 and 5, I think this is a really good engagement curve. I’m not the best at analyzing music, so maybe those who are can add something to this?

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Wow you made my day ! I listened to the 10th track and I realised that it was my first anime ringtone !
One I had set before I even knew key . I had come across it on YouTube loved the song and now I know it was composed by the heart of key ~ jun maeda !

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Final thoughts on Owari no Hoshi no Love Song?

Well I have thing I’m not really sure how to deal with. It’s a pretty common thing for people to criticize writings that starts drama before “the viewer has had enough time to get attached to the character(s),” right? If time is such an important factor, how can these songs work when you get a maximum five minutes per story? I’ve never thought of time as the deciding factor hence why I’m not sure how to go about handling the question.

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One thing I noticed was that all the videos open with a scene from the end of each of their songs. Gives it the feel that everything ties together in the end.

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I had been meaning to listen to Love Song for a while but the bookclub gave me the push I needed to listen to it. I really like this album but it can be really depressing to follow the characters through their grieving process. I think my favorite song is Soshite Monogatari ga Owaru.

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In case anybody missed the Long Long Love Song stream last night, you can catch it here! It includes short previews for every song, and even full versions of a couple of them! We also got a new PV for Bokura Dake no Hoshi.

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I enjoyed tracks 1, 9, 12, and 13. My favorite from the previews was, track 5, Yakusoku no Uta. I like the sound of the beginning, not sure how to describe it in text. It’s like she goes at a steady rhythm but drags out the second to last sound of the line.
At 52:50, I think this is how it’s stressed. (I don’t have a trained ear for this.)
Ko No U Chuu No Do Ko Ka~ De
Shi A Wa Se Ni Na Re Te Ta~ Ra

Is there anyway to buy the artwork for the Love Song albums?
Specifically Long Long Love Song, I’d really like to use some for my desktop background slideshow.

LLLS is the worst Love Song, Kumaki Anri is weak compared to the previous vocalists and a lot of the songs wash over me partially because of her, I dislike how the album just shits on the love between the characters in most of the songs(I get that it’s the point, that doesn’t mean I have to like it), I don’t see myself warming up to this one.

Supernova is best girl by a country mile in just about every aspect though.

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:umu:

The narratives are weaker across the board and the songs are super boring. I thought the album would grow on me with time, but the more I listen to it the more it feels like a bad clone of previous Love Song albums.
I do appreciate the simplistic nature of most of the songs, but it doesn’t leave a lasting impression,

[LLLS]

I felt like putting down a short list of thoughts on LLLS for future reference.

  1. I liked it initially cuz it’s a poppier song, but it doesn’t do anything special, so I don’t really care to think about it much at this point.
  2. Favorite song musically and narratively. When it was previewed, it completely stole my attention for a week, and I still love it to death.
  3. This is like my top 3-4ish. I took a while after release, but I just found myself humming the song all the time. Narratively, it’s also a small but essential follow-up to Bus Stop.
  4. I refer to Rain Dance as ‘Symbolism: The Song.’ It has so much stuff. It’s mostly the lyrics that interest me, so it goes in the middle camp of I’m perfectly happy with it but won’t completely gush over it.
  5. Second favorite song. It just does all the things awesomely, can’t say much else.
  6. Listened to it a ton before release. It’s super sad but not quite at the point where I’d call it a favorite.
  7. Similar place to #6. I really can’t stand vocaloids, but with an actual singer, song’s really good.
  8. The only song that I really dislike. I haven’t tried playing it on a fancy audio setup like Biz said.
  9. I like it, not much else. The Itunes extra didn’t change much.
  10. [Copy paste what I said about #1]
  11. It’s Clannad. It’s cool, but it doesn’t feel like a part of the album.
  12. The last of the songs I simply adore. I’d want an entire song like that interlude/bridge(?) thing.
  13. I kinda zone out around the 7 minute mark if not just straight up turn it off. #12 and #13 still do a really good job harking back to all the previous tracks.

Having four tracks I really love is on par with the others, so it’s a fine addition and/or conclusion to the love song series. In the individual topics, I want to go over the literary devices that make me think this is the best presented narrative in the series, even if it’s really simple and Maeda’s done it a million times already; that might not happen until the bookclub though.

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I recently came across a translation of Maeda’s production diary included in the Long Long Love Song album. The diary is very personal and has some shocking details. I wonder if anyone has done an English translation of it? If not, would it interest anyone that I do one?

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I would be very interested! Just curious, but where is that diary from? Never even heard of it before :shock:

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I think it’s the diary mentioned in our news article here: https://kazamatsuri.org/jun-maedas-new-album-long-long-love-song-announced/
“The limited edition will be sold for ¥3,740 and comes in a digipack including all the songs and pamphlet together with Jun Maeda’s production diary”

But just to clarify I don’t own a copy of the limited edition album, nor do I have the original text of the diary (which I can’t read anyway). All I have is a (presumably) complete fan translation of the diary in a third language (Chinese) which I could read and translate into english.
Althought it can be done, and is definitely worth doing, I will be translating a translation, you see :ai:

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I remember someone reading it and finding it too loaded to want to post a translation, eheh…

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I had it, now go guess where it is, I would have to find it. I know Helios has it too and he told me how Maeda was just too tired of his “famous” life and how at times it looked as if he just wanted to quit. There’s mainly stuff about how he wrote the songs and parts of his life that influenced those songs.

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I have a copy and have translated about the first quarter of it, but who knows if it’s any good since that was half a year ago when I knew a lot less Japanese. I haven’t gotten around to reading or translating the rest of it, but you can compare with what I had so far if you want.

I felt the entry about Maeda’s hospitalization and recovery was very well-written. It explained his mindset through the whole ordeal and how lucky he was to recover as well as he did.

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Absolutely! I would love to see the part you have translated so far, it could help to crosscheck with your work whenever I have a doubt about the other translater.

I personally felt terrible and worried after reading that part, I didn’t fully realize how serious his illness actually was.

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